Where are all the Potential PNMs? - Page 3

ellebud · #1 07-03-2009, 12:55 AM

Dr. Phil:

People can predict that they will be flamed when they say some unpopular or controversal. They may also be flamed when someone who enjoys attacking just for sh***s and giggles decides to go on a rampage.

It is also called character: The ability to have an opinion that is possibly unpopular, state it in a neutral (Not "Hey B...) way, explain the position knowing that there are some who will violently disagree and yet are secure enough to state what seems to them to be a salient point.

Tippiechick · #2 07-03-2009, 01:08 AM

Screw it. It's so not even worth it.

ellebud · #3 07-03-2009, 01:27 AM

Tippiechick:

Me thinks that you protest much too much. I was not referring to you. If I were interested in blasting someone (emphasis on ONE as in person) I wouldn't waste my energy on a internet snarky comment.

My observation was directed to parts of the site in general. For example to women who say to a rushee who is trying to write a real time story and are stalked by contributors who let everybody know what school the girl attends. Or people who attack a kid who may be asking a question that has been asked before and vultures attack with why are you so dumb? (They're young, inexperienced, too lazy to research whatever.) My point is simply ignore the question. Let someone with more patience answer it. (Remember a two year olds constant WHY question?) And again Tippiechick...I am not referring to you specifically.

If I wanted to attack you personally darling, I wouldn't be hiding inside a thread. I would say it straight out. You, personally, aren't worth my time.

33girl · #4 07-03-2009, 01:38 AM

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For example to women who say to a rushee who is trying to write a real time story and are stalked by contributors who let everybody know what school the girl attends.

OK, now I'm pissed.

There was only one public "outing" recently and the girl who did it (who is an extremely sweet person) was very contrite and thought everyone knew the rushee's school already. She didn't "stalk" and wasn't trying to be mean. The truth of the matter is that between the rushee choosing a name that shouted her location and her utter lack of discretion, many people knew the school after the first post. She had multiple warnings that she was basically showing her underwear and chances to go back and edit, which she ignored.

The only "vultures" I have seen are in the ever popular "what are the reps of the sororities at blahblah U" threads, and that's because after the PNM is told, firmly but nicely, that reputations are NOT discussed on here, they keep pushing.

ellebud · #5 07-03-2009, 01:57 AM

All I can say is that often when I read a true threat about rush I see comment after comment, "I know what school she goes to!" or "It could only be one of three schools!" I think that it is ............." "And, I know which house it is" And again, I really don't look at individual posters that often, I don't doubt that the woman you refer to is a sweet person in real life. I am sorry that you are pissed. But, if you go back and look at real (not fantasy) threads you will see dozens of the aforementioned comments.

epchick · #6 07-03-2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ellebud

All I can say is that often when I read a true threat about rush I see comment after comment, "I know what school she goes to!" or "It could only be one of three schools!" I think that it is ............." "And, I know which house it is" And again, I really don't look at individual posters that often, I don't doubt that the woman you refer to is a sweet person in real life. I am sorry that you are pissed. But, if you go back and look at real (not fantasy) threads you will see dozens of the aforementioned comments.

Not that I agree with it (because I, for one, dislike it when people make those comments) but how is that "stalking?" Most of the time the PNM is not very discreet about not telling where they go to school or whatever. Being able to figure out where a PNM goes to school by putting 2+2 together does not equal stalking.

33girl · #7 07-04-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ellebud

All I can say is that often when I read a true threat about rush I see comment after comment, "I know what school she goes to!" or "It could only be one of three schools!" I think that it is ............." "And, I know which house it is" And again, I really don't look at individual posters that often, I don't doubt that the woman you refer to is a sweet person in real life. I am sorry that you are pissed. But, if you go back and look at real (not fantasy) threads you will see dozens of the aforementioned comments.

And what isn't said is, "if people from out of the state who graduated 10 years ago can figure out this school in 2.5 seconds, perhaps you should be a bit more discreet in case any current sorority members at your school are reading this and wouldn't like what you're saying." Oh wait, that DOES get said sometimes. If it isn't sugar coated and tied with a pretty bow, that's because longtime posters here have learned that sugar coated and tied with a pretty bow doesn't get the message across.

I'm sorry that you apparently see the worst in people, and think that anyone who makes a comment like that is doing so with the intention of ruining a PNM's rush or "stalking" them.

UGAalum94 · #8 07-04-2009, 01:44 AM

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And what isn't said is, "if people from out of the state who graduated 10 years ago can figure out this school in 2.5 seconds, perhaps you should be a bit more discreet in case any current sorority members at your school are reading this and wouldn't like what you're saying." Oh wait, that DOES get said sometimes. If it isn't sugar coated and tied with a pretty bow, that's because longtime posters here have learned that sugar coated and tied with a pretty bow doesn't get the message across.

I'm sorry that you apparently see the worst in people, and think that anyone who makes a comment like that is doing so with the intention of ruining a PNM's rush or "stalking" them.

Aw, come on. Sometime, yes, you're right; the poster is told in a positive to neutral way, but another pretty high percentage of the time, it's just like what's happening here. There gets to be a whole lot of unwarranted attitude.

You're sorry that she, one of the more positive posters IMO, sees the worst in people? Really?

33girl · #9 07-04-2009, 07:03 PM

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You're sorry that she, one of the more positive posters IMO, sees the worst in people? Really?

She was a positive poster, I agree, until she got a Mt Rushmore size chip on her shoulder because she thought something was referring to her that wasn't referring to her.

And again - if girls can't handle anonymous people on the internet telling them things straight up, no way no day are they going to make it through a competitive rush.

Getting back to the original question, which is why are there fewer PNMs posting. Maybe they are 1) reading the stickies and getting their questions answered and 2) realizing their question is too school specific for us to answer and going directly to their Greek life office. If those are the reasons, I think anyone who is sad about the "lack" of PNMs is a giant lame-o.

mittens · #10 07-04-2009, 12:42 PM

As a PNM I read the stickies and use the search button. And I love reading recruitment stories because they get me pumped up for this fall. /end

CassieGal · #11 07-04-2009, 10:17 PM

i'm rushing in the fall & cannot wait

FSUZeta · #12 07-05-2009, 09:13 AM

good luck to you cassie.

GatorGirl19 · #13 07-05-2009, 02:48 PM

Yeah, let me take a second to thank everyone. In all seriousness, I don't think that the alumni on greekchat are rude or mean. I think that everytime I've read something mean was in response to a PNM that doesn't like what the more knowledgeable people are saying.

I think it boils down to us PNMs not liking what we're hearing, or doing stuff on greekchat that isn't too savvy and then being recommended to not do it. I asked for advice and I got some pretty frank responses, and I'm thankful because the people giving the advice have been there already. So....

One more PNM PRESENT! ^_^ Good luck to all PNMs doing fall rush!

CassieGal · #14 07-05-2009, 04:59 PM

thank you, FSUZeta & GatorGirl!

GatorGirl19 · #15 07-06-2009, 12:50 AM

np cassiegirl ^_^ i'm rushing too and i'm uber nervous and i'm mentally preparing myself for the worst because I know the odds are against me. but i won't let me hopes get too down! I can't wait for recruitment actually and I hear it's an experience, regardless of whether or not you get in b/c you're still bound to make new friends and stuff. so...

power to the PNMs of 2009-2010! ^_^