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07-01-2009, 11:48 AM
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I think he needs a priest that he can privately confess to.
I know I've got the denomination wrong (well, he's Episcopal, so he could find a priest, but confession might be weird), but I think might be what's driving him. He wants to confess everything and then hope to be forgiven.
Since I don't think Jenny's willing to play that role, and I love her for that, he's using the media, which is the wrong call.
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07-01-2009, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UGAalum94
I think he needs a priest that he can privately confess to.
I know I've got the denomination wrong (well, he's Episcopal, so he could find a priest, but confession might be weird), but I think might be what's driving him. He wants to confess everything and then hope to be forgiven.
Since I don't think Jenny's willing to play that role, and I love her for that, he's using the media, which is the wrong call.
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I agree with that analysis. Maureen Dowd wrote in her column today "a news wire is not a spiritual adivser" but apparently he missed that memo.
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07-01-2009, 12:17 PM
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I know I've got the denomination wrong (well, he's Episcopal, so he could find a priest, but confession might be weird), but I think might be what's driving him. He wants to confess everything and then hope to be forgiven.
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There is confession among Episcopalians (formally called " Reconciliation of a Penitent" in the Book of Common Prayer), although SC tends to be fairly low church, so maybe it's not done so much there.
Frankly, I think there's a really interesting religion angle to all of this that the press, not surprisingly, is missing for the most part.
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07-01-2009, 12:18 PM
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There is confession among Episcopalians (formally called " Reconciliation of a Penitent" in the Book of Common Prayer), although SC tends to be fairly low church, so maybe it's not done so much there.
Frankly, I think there's a really interesting religion angle to all of this that the press, not surprisingly, is missing for the most part.
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He's acting like Jimmy Swaggart!
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07-01-2009, 12:31 PM
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There is confession among Episcopalians (formally called " Reconciliation of a Penitent" in the Book of Common Prayer), although SC tends to be fairly low church, so maybe it's not done so much there.
Frankly, I think there's a really interesting religion angle to all of this that the press, not surprisingly, is missing for the most part.
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I had wondered if Anglicans/Episcopalians had dropped confession entirely since there was a desire to get away from priestly intermediaries for the OP (Original Protestants).
To me, it seems like such a basic spiritual need to respond to, although I find the Catholic requirement too intense to be comfortable personally.
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07-01-2009, 01:06 PM
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I had wondered if Anglicans/Episcopalians had dropped confession entirely since there was a desire to get away from priestly intermediaries for the OP (Original Protestants).
To me, it seems like such a basic spiritual need to respond to, although I find the Catholic requirement too intense to be comfortable personally.
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Don't most protestant denominations preach confession through prayer to God?
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07-01-2009, 01:18 PM
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Don't most protestant denominations preach confession through prayer to God?
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I think so. I'm (kind of a lame) Roman Catholic, so I'm not 100% sure.
I realize that I may have written that post about confession stupidly. I didn't mean the idea of confessing sins in general as much as I meant a sacrament involving a priest that you confessed to.
It's the priest's response to the confession that I think gives people a real sense of forgiveness sometimes. Your faith in your forgiveness is backed up by someone immediately.
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07-01-2009, 01:21 PM
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I had wondered if Anglicans/Episcopalians had dropped confession entirely since there was a desire to get away from priestly intermediaries for the OP (Original Protestants).
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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB
Don't most protestant denominations preach confession through prayer to God?
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Yes. I think it is something that the Anglicans got away from originally -- it started making a comeback with the Oxford/Anglo-Catholic Movement in the 19th Century.
So far as I know, Luther was the only one of the Reformers who advocated retaining personal confession to a member of the clergy, though I don't know that it has ever been widely practiced among Lutherans.
And shoot, these days even the Presbyterian Book of Common Worship has an order for what is essentially private confession, though I've never heard of anyone using it.
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