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06-26-2009, 11:25 PM
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Someone was asking about the kids, and I think Dateline is saying that their "mother" doesn't really have rights to them, but she may try to come back into the picture.
I think they're saying that legally, the kids will most likely go to his mother Katherine right now.
I feel so badly for them. They were apparently home when was taken to the hospital. That's so sad.
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Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?
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06-26-2009, 11:51 PM
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Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?
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I was watching Dateline this evening and I know that they were saying that the youngest is adopted (but that Jackson never said from where). I don't particularly think the other 2 are his bio kids myself.
I also love how every Dr. who has ever treated him or prescribed him anything is now on the news talking about how many meds he was taking and how dangerous it is. Would have been nice for someone to have said something about it while he was alive. I'm not sure he would have listened though.
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06-27-2009, 12:04 AM
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I also love how every Dr. who has ever treated him or prescribed him anything is now on the news talking about how many meds he was taking and how dangerous it is. Would have been nice for someone to have said something about it while he was alive. I'm not sure he would have listened though.
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Maybe they did - we don't know what his doctors said to him, whether he listened to their treatment instructions, and we probably never will know for sure.
I do think it's a bit sketchy for someone's doctors to start speaking publically about one of their patients, even after their death.
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06-27-2009, 08:08 AM
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I do think it's a bit sketchy for someone's doctors to start speaking publically about one of their patients, even after their death.
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I completely agree. Does the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement go out the window upon the patient's death? (That's a serious question - I really don't know.)
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06-27-2009, 08:39 AM
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I completely agree. Does the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement go out the window upon the patient's death? (That's a serious question - I really don't know.)
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I'm not sure, although I would imagine not. I know that it's an open question in some states whether attorney-client confidentiality ends. I would imagine that in the medical context, confidentiality still stands (except in cases of medical proxies, autopsies, and for research purposes cleared by the patient).
One of the MDs on site (BigRedBeta or AOIIAlum) would know better than I would, though.
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06-27-2009, 09:27 PM
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I'm not sure, although I would imagine not. I know that it's an open question in some states whether attorney-client confidentiality ends.
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In my jurisdiction, it goes to the grave (of the attorney).
There's no question.
At any rate, I don't know the facts here, but assuming that these docs were indiscriminately supplying this guy with meds, some licenses should be pulled.
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06-27-2009, 10:02 PM
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Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?
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Nope. We were just talking about that this morning at work. Some believe they were born via in vitro, but I don't believe even that.
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I completely agree. Does the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement go out the window upon the patient's death? (That's a serious question - I really don't know.)
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Hmmm....I looked it up briefly and all I could gather was that the confidentiality agreement does extend after death, but for how long varies among areas.
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06-27-2009, 10:17 PM
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In my jurisdiction, it goes to the grave (of the attorney).
There's no question.
At any rate, I don't know the facts here, but assuming that these docs were indiscriminately supplying this guy with meds, some licenses should be pulled.
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I won't go into all of it, because I'm writing a fairly extensive paper on the topic this summer...but the short of it is that in some states, it only goes to the grave of the client. It's an interesting question (probably why I'm devoting all of these hours to writing about it).
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06-28-2009, 09:18 AM
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Maybe they did - we don't know what his doctors said to him, whether he listened to their treatment instructions, and we probably never will know for sure.
I do think it's a bit sketchy for someone's doctors to start speaking publically about one of their patients, even after their death.
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Deepak Chopra, never one to shun the spotlight, was quoted as saying that while MJ was in treatment at his center, he asked for a pain pills prescription. Dr. Chopra was like, "why?," and MJ was obviously lying and then he admitted he was in pain. At that point, Chopra realized that MJ was no doubt surrounded by people willing to give him anything he wanted--including large amounts of prescription drugs.
Also, it looks like he found less and less reputable doctors to fulfill his wishes when his top-of-the-line docs said no. I mean, this doctor who was with him when he died wasn't even board-certified.
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06-27-2009, 06:06 PM
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Most folks that we admire and celebrate have all kinds of skeletons in their closets. Michael Jackson is no different.
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Yeah, he had monkey skeletons in his closest though. I haven't seen bubbles in years. Have you?
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06-27-2009, 06:32 PM
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So various gossip blogs are reporting that Evan Chandler is coming forward now and saying that his molestation allegations were lies (and that his dad, Jordan Chandler, coerced him into making them). I don't know how much truth there is to that at this time though.
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06-27-2009, 06:53 PM
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So various gossip blogs are reporting that Evan Chandler is coming forward now and saying that his molestation allegations were lies (and that his dad, Jordan Chandler, coerced him into making them). I don't know how much truth there is to that at this time though.
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That is soooooooo not cool to lie about shizz like that if what the gossip blogs are saying is true
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06-27-2009, 08:14 PM
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So various gossip blogs are reporting that Evan Chandler is coming forward now and saying that his molestation allegations were lies (and that his dad, Jordan Chandler, coerced him into making them). I don't know how much truth there is to that at this time though.
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I believe him (this time). I never thought Michael was guilty of doing anything to him. I felt like it was a ploy all along to get money.
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06-28-2009, 12:35 PM
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So various gossip blogs are reporting that Evan Chandler is coming forward now and saying that his molestation allegations were lies (and that his dad, Jordan Chandler, coerced him into making them). I don't know how much truth there is to that at this time though.
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Actually Jordy is the son (supposedly molested by MJ) and Evan is the dad.
Interesting info:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209470,00.html
There's no doubt that some of the kids that were around Neverland a lot were from exceptionally effed-up families, Macauley Culkin being a basic example. Whether Michael "preyed" on these kids or whether the kids were drawn to Michael because of the similar effed-upness in their lives, hard to say.
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06-27-2009, 08:09 PM
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Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?
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nope.
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