recruitment statistics(might put it all in perspective)

[lawgal]

3.57% were true releases, meaning that at some point in the week, they received no invitations. The remaining 3.05%, which equaled 146 pnms, were released on bid day.

Of course this means that something over 146 pnms were true releases at Auburn during the week. Hurtful if you are one of them. Or was 146 + over the course of 4 years? 36 a year, while still tough for the girls is not as brutal as 146.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by lawgal

Of course this means that something over 146 pnms were true releases at Auburn during the week. Hurtful if you are one of them. Or was 146 + over the course of 4 years? 36 a year, while still tough for the girls is not as brutal as 146.

It's hurtful of course.

However, it DOES say that the girls who were released on BID DAY, the majority of them were not girls who maximized their options ("These women listed fewer choices on their preference card than they had options").

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by lawgal

Of course this means that something over 146 pnms were true releases at Auburn during the week. Hurtful if you are one of them. Or was 146 + over the course of 4 years? 36 a year, while still tough for the girls is not as brutal as 146.

i read it as over the 4 years that the statistics were taken. as to the releases, we should remember that some of the releases could be dropping the wrong sororities in the early days of recruitment and putting the wrong sororities down on your card.

[UGAalum94]

I'm pretty sure it's four year's worth as well. The math doesn't work with the percentages for one year.

The link in the OP says over four years.

[DoubleRose]

From the website:
That 3.05% is made of 146 women (over a four year period), who all listed fewer options than those available to them in their final preferences. So, of the 146 women released on Bid Day, all were released because they chose to list only one or two sororities in their preferences and would have been placed in a chapter had they maximized their options for joining. In other words, all of them would have received a bid from a sorority had they simply been more open minded and listed all of their preferences.

So they made their choice; they could have been in a sorority.

[lawgal]

Actually it was the 3.57% that were released that I was expressing compassion about. I used the 146+ number because it was easier than doing the math. However it appears that the 3.57% over 4 years is around 170 girls that were released by the houses. Yes, it could have been that they made poor choices early, but it is tough to know at the time that you might have a better chance at XYZ rather than ABC, particularly if you don't listen to the tent talk about which sorority is strong and which is not.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by carnation

That probably depends on the campus you're at. I've known many guys at various campuses who wouldn't be caught dead dating anyone who wasn't in one of the prestigious sororities. Really. If a guy has a hot girlfriend who isn't Greek, his friends wonder what huge thing is wrong with her that she looks so good but isn't Greek.

Yeah, that's bad of course but i'm just reporting it as I've seen it.

Originally Posted by cbm

I saw quite a bit of that at my campus, too.

A few friends dropped out of rush after only getting invited back to houses they felt undesirable. They had no intention of re-rushing and knew their chances were blown, but they would rather not be Greek than to join (or at least give a chance to) a house they didn't care for.

To each her own.

Thanks FSUZeta for posting the stats/analysis. I hope it will encourage future PNMs!

I find this attitude to be sad on the part of the men and women who participate and perpetuate it. I kicked a guy to the curb once because he thought all women who were members of my chapter were (insert stupid, hateful, ridiculous, immature, pathetic, untrue, etc. stereotype here) and I couldn't possibly be a member of my organization, and I had to be from another school. It is bad enough we have to deal with the stereotypes and inaccuracies from people who aren't members and want to bring us down, we shouldn't do it to each other and ourselves.

He is an alumnus and couldn't recall meeting or knowing ONE member of my chapter from his five years in school (that's NINE pledge classes), and my school is not that big.

[DubaiSis]

At Iowa, something like 1/3 of the women dropped out of recruitment this year. It's in year 2 of RFM, and it's having some growing pains. But with all the talk about bottom tier houses, the part that seems to be lost is that if those 200 girls took those bottom tier houses, there would be parity, and thus, no more bottom tier. But that's a big leap of faith for an 18 year old girl who has always been top girl in school.

COB seems to be going well there this year, so maybe parity will be achieved next year or the year after that.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

At Iowa, something like 1/3 of the women dropped out of recruitment this year. It's in year 2 of RFM, and it's having some growing pains. But with all the talk about bottom tier houses, the part that seems to be lost is that if those 200 girls took those bottom tier houses, there would be parity, and thus, no more bottom tier. But that's a big leap of faith for an 18 year old girl who has always been top girl in school.

COB seems to be going well there this year, so maybe parity will be achieved next year or the year after that.

"Bottom tier" isn't just about size, but who's in them. I'm sure you could fill every sorority if you took just anyone.

What I find interesting is how at some schools (I think this is a Northeast thing) the fraternity that has the least members is sometimes the "top" group. That's because they are very very selective in whom they pick.