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Old 06-05-2009, 12:42 PM
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Is there an overall set of experiences? Are white experiences so uniform that the claim makes sense?

It doesn't to me.
Yes. They are uniformly devoid of being non-white.

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I think that the experience of being Ted Kennedy varies so significantly from the experience of being Eminem, especially pre-success, that it's kind of goofy to lump them together by race and culture and assume that they've shared formative experiences.
I have said this over a dozen times now - nobody is disputing this fact. YOU are assuming a "shared formative experience" - I am not. She is not, in the speech. You're arguing a strawman, and have been for like 5 pages now.
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:42 PM
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Yes. They are uniformly devoid of being non-white.



I have said this over a dozen times now - nobody is disputing this fact. YOU are assuming a "shared formative experience" - I am not. She is not, in the speech. You're arguing a strawman, and have been for like 5 pages now.
I find it difficult in this instance to look at a comparative statement and not look at the what's implied about the side that comes up lacking.

Don't let it trouble you. Be content that you don't find it racist and call it a day. ETA: I don't mean stop criticizing whatever you want to, but sometimes you actually seem to be getting frustrated and I doubt it's worth it to be repeating 12 times something that I'm not getting, perhaps mainly because I don't want to.
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:11 PM
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I find it difficult in this instance to look at a comparative statement and not look at the what's implied about the side that comes up lacking.

Don't let it trouble you. Be content that you don't find it racist and call it a day. ETA: I don't mean stop criticizing whatever you want to, but sometimes you actually seem to be getting frustrated and I doubt it's worth it to be repeating 12 times something that I'm not getting, perhaps mainly because I don't want to.
It's not really that I'm frustrated per se - certainly not with you specifically or as a person. It's more that I feel like you're arguing against points I'm not making, and that you've decided that the "null hypothesis" is something vastly different than I would ever consider - but it's all good, it's not really a debate to convince each other, and it seems to be in good spirits.
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:35 PM
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It's not really that I'm frustrated per se - certainly not with you specifically or as a person. It's more that I feel like you're arguing against points I'm not making, and that you've decided that the "null hypothesis" is something vastly different than I would ever consider - but it's all good, it's not really a debate to convince each other, and it seems to be in good spirits.
It's kind of a funny thread because we're all in agreement, I think, that of the choices Obama was likely to make, she's a pretty good one.
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