Indiana University Recruitment

baygirl88 · #1 05-23-2009, 04:57 PM

You're absolutely right. My non-Greek friends at Purdue have no problem with my being in a sorority. I've never heard a peep out of them as far as negative comments go. IU is a different story. I've heard all kinds of negative comments there towards Greek Life, and I can only assume it's because they are bitter. If I was in their situation, I suppose I would be too! As I said before, my sister is going through rush at IU and though I'm nervous for her, I'm even more scared for my friend who is transferring in as a sophomore. She knows a few people in sororities, and is coming in with recommendations, but from what I've heard, the news is just not good for sophomores @ IU. IUgreekgirl, is this true? Any advice?

KSUViolet06 · #2 05-23-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baygirl88

You're absolutely right. My non-Greek friends at Purdue have no problem with my being in a sorority. I've never heard a peep out of them as far as negative comments go. IU is a different story. I've heard all kinds of negative comments there towards Greek Life, and I can only assume it's because they are bitter. If I was in their situation, I suppose I would be too! As I said before, my sister is going through rush at IU and though I'm nervous for her, I'm even more scared for my friend who is transferring in as a sophomore. She knows a few people in sororities, and is coming in with recommendations, but from what I've heard, the news is just not good for sophomores @ IU. IUgreekgirl, is this true? Any advice?

This thread talks about recruitment as a soph at IU:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...t=IU+sophomore

IU recruitment is tough for sophomores, with some heavy cuts early on. I have heard of sophomores getting bids, but it's not the norm I don't think.

KSUViolet06 · #3 05-23-2009, 05:09 PM

This one has advice for sophomore IU transfers:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=92250

baygirl88 · #4 05-23-2009, 05:51 PM

Thanks for the links, KSUviolet! It seems like IU is pretty much what I've heard it was - super competitive. Sounds like keeping an open mind is a good idea. My sister assumes that girls she's lost touch with or wasn't friends with in high school that are in sororities now at IU will cut her automatically from their chapters, so she has been ignoring offers from family friends to write her recs. Maybe some of this advice on here will show her the light! All I can say is that I'm glad it's not me rushing @ IU! It sounds like quite the emotional rollercoaster. =/

IUGreekGirl · #5 05-25-2009, 10:05 PM

Sorry I've been MIA for so long.
There are three girls in my pledge class who were sophomores when we got bids. It isn't impossible at all. But with so many girls rushing, the year you are in school is an easy reason to be cut.

Tell your friend to for sure rush. But as with all PNMs- one of the best pieces of advice overall is to not ever get set on a certain house, or to get set on being Greek at all. Plus IU has so much going on all the time that you can still have a rewarding college experience as a GDI.

honeychile · #6 05-29-2009, 11:06 PM

I know that I'm terribly late to this thread, but 150 bidless women, after being asked to Prefs? NPC has put together too many safeguards to keep this from happening to allow this to be a more than one year statistic?

Are the chapters using the Release numbers? Has suiciding been penalized? Having over a hundred women upset because they didn't get a bid to one of twenty (nineteen?) sororities is about 100 too many, IMHO. Placing only 52% of the women who sign up for Recruitment is a nasty percentage, and just as the campus Panhellenic was somewhat forced into accepting NPC "suggestions", there needs to be a meeting of the minds at IU.

Unless, of course, they start putting in several more sets of bunk beds or sleeping porches into each house.

ASUADPi · #7 05-30-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

I know that I'm terribly late to this thread, but 150 bidless women, after being asked to Prefs? NPC has put together too many safeguards to keep this from happening to allow this to be a more than one year statistic?

Are the chapters using the Release numbers? Has suiciding been penalized? Having over a hundred women upset because they didn't get a bid to one of twenty (nineteen?) sororities is about 100 too many, IMHO. Placing only 52% of the women who sign up for Recruitment is a nasty percentage, and just as the campus Panhellenic was somewhat forced into accepting NPC "suggestions", there needs to be a meeting of the minds at IU.

Unless, of course, they start putting in several more sets of bunk beds or sleeping porches into each house.

Isn't it because IU only lets chapters bid what they can actually house?

I personally find this an asinine rule, mainly because (not that I've been to IU or seen the houses) unless all houses have the same number of beds, then it truly wouldn't be "fair" on chapter size. It just seems that if one chapter has a house that can bed 100 women and another can only bed 30, obviously the one that can only bed 30 is at a disadvantage with the chapter that can bed 100.

Are most of the houses at IU around the same size when it comes to "beds"? Do most of the houses just have sleeping porches?

Now, I know that chapter sizes vary per campuses, but at least the ones here in AZ have the set total and the set quota. (Again, I also understand that chapters can be above total, although the whole going over total with quota confuses me, but that is a whole other thread).

IUGreekGirl · #8 05-30-2009, 01:21 AM

Again, IU works on bed quota. It's a terrible way of doing things, we know this. But we can't change it.
But small houses are actually at an advantage because it makes it more competitive to get a bed spot.

Every house is different sized. Most have cold dorms (sleeping porches) but you can still have only so many desks/closets in the day rooms.

carnation · #9 05-30-2009, 09:21 AM

It can be changed. They had bed rush at Arkansas when I was there and the numbers were beginning to be so big that over half the rushees went bidless: good, strong women who would have been such an asset to us, many of whom became anti-Greek in their pain.

Who changed it? In large part, the alums. They could see all the valuable women being drained from the system because of the foolish insistence that everyone live in. Did the Greeks hate the change? If they did, it didn't last long; a couple of years later, no one could believe how it used to be done.

Would I have suppported the change had I been an alum at the time? Are you kidding--with nine daughters, of course I would have! There is no need to become so horribly exclusive that you shoot yourself in the foot by turning away good women and creating enemies on top of that.

BadCat25 · #10 05-30-2009, 09:46 AM

I also think it needs a big push from the university administration which apparently ignores the problem.

kchaptergphib · #11 05-30-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

It can be changed. They had bed rush at Arkansas when I was there and the numbers were beginning to be so big that over half the rushees went bidless: good, strong women who would have been such an asset to us, many of whom became anti-Greek in their pain.

Who changed it? In large part, the alums. They could see all the valuable women being drained from the system because of the foolish insistence that everyone live in. Did the Greeks hate the change? If they did, it didn't last long; a couple of years later, no one could believe how it used to be done.

Would I have suppported the change had I been an alum at the time? Are you kidding--with nine daughters, of course I would have! There is no need to become so horribly exclusive that you shoot yourself in the foot by turning away good women and creating enemies on top of that.

Carnation, darling, I think you need to write letters to the Alumnae Advisors for the chapters at IU!