Race & Sororities

[cbm]

Originally Posted by OTW

Discretion is key. That's all I'll say about it.

Ditto this. Just don't make a big deal of race either way, and you should be ok.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by cbm

Ditto this. Just don't make a big deal of race either way, and you should be ok.

I think at Ole Miss, this may not be true. Maybe OleMissGlitter will come by and comment on the racial make-up of the sororities at Ole Miss. I refuse to call any of the chapter members racists since the lack of non-white members may be due to a lack of non-white PNMs, but I can't remember seeing too may non-white members in the pictures from that campus. Can someone give this woman an honest answer? She can rush if she wants, but maybe she should have a realistic idea of her chances.

[cbm]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I think at Ole Miss, this may not be true. Maybe OleMissGlitter will come by and comment on the racial make-up of the sororities at Ole Miss. I refuse to call any of the chapter members racists since the lack of non-white members may be due to a lack of non-white PNMs, but I can't remember seeing too may non-white members in the pictures from that campus. Can someone give this woman an honest answer? She can rush if she wants, but maybe she should have a realistic idea of her chances.

My sister was a Phi Mu at Ole Miss. Rushess are predominantely white, but they're not all blonde and blue-eyed. If you get my drift....that is why I advised the OP to just not mention it either way.

It's really sad that this is still an issue in today's world.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by cbm

My sister was a Phi Mu at Ole Miss. Rushess are predominantely white, but they're not all blonde and blue-eyed. If you get my drift....that is why I advised the OP to just not mention it either way.

It's really sad that this is still an issue in today's world.

I agree it's sad, but realistically in the south it will be a problem for awhile longer. I'm ashamed to look back and know that my chapter would NEVER have pledged an African American member. It was the culture of the times, and I am shamed that I didn't find fault with it then.

As for not mentioning it, we have no idea what this woman looks like. Not all mixed race people can hide their ethnicity, nor do many of them want to.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I agree it's sad, but realistically in the south it will be a problem for awhile longer.

It will be a problem everywhere. Other regions just hide it better and people overlook the obvious because it makes them feel progressive.

All of these orgs are predominantly (insert race and ethnicity of the founders). There may be a bit more diversity at some chapters outside of the South but it's not enough difference to challenge the predominant racial makeup.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It will be a problem everywhere. Other regions just hide it better and people overlook the obvious because it makes them feel progressive.

All of these orgs are predominantly (insert race and ethnicity of the founders). There may be a bit more diversity at some chapters outside of the South but it's not enough difference to challenge the predominant racial makeup.

I totally agree. I grew up in the South, was educated in New England, and now I live in New York City. Ironically, I found that race relations are much better in the South than in NYC, in part because there is less segregation based on socioeconomics and national origin.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by cbm

My sister was a Phi Mu at Ole Miss. Rushess are predominantely white, but they're not all blonde and blue-eyed. If you get my drift....that is why I advised the OP to just not mention it either way.

Do you mean that she shouldn't ask them the question she asked GC?

Or do you mean that race is one of those topics like politics and religion that should be avoided, altogether. I don't agree with restricting topics like that but a lot of people do.

Originally Posted by cbm

It's really sad that this is still an issue in today's world.

Why shouldn't it still be an issue? Has something changed and I wasn't sent the memo?

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by cbm

Ditto this. Just don't make a big deal of race either way, and you should be ok.

Although this would ideally be the case, and is the case at the vast majority of colleges and universities, there are still some parts of the country where this view is hopelessly naive. I know full well that if I hadn't rushed where I did, that I may not have been accepted with open arms the way I was in my chapter.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Although this would ideally be the case, and is the case at the vast majority of colleges and universities, there are still some parts of the country where this view is hopelessly naive. I know full well that if I hadn't rushed where I did, that I may not have been accepted with open arms the way I was in my chapter.

Same here. I considered LSU in HS and I am fairly certain that I would have gone bidless had I gone there and participated in recruitment.

Race is still an issue at some of the larger, more competitive recruitments in the south. So advising someone that "race isn't an issue" or "shouldn't be an issue" is not the best thing.

Also, regards to: "just don't make a big deal of race either way, and you should be ok." Race is race. It's impossible to "downplay" or "ingnore race" because well, it's not like a coat or something that you can take on and off.

Is it unfortunate that it's still an issue? Sure. But we can't advise people that "it'll be ok if they just downplay it."

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Also, regards to: "just don't make a big deal of race either way, and you should be ok." Race is race. It's impossible to "downplay" or "ingnore race" because well, it's not like a coat or something that you can take on and off.

Is it unfortunate that it's still an issue? Sure. But we can't advise people that "it'll be ok if they just downplay it."

Oh, she meant for the OP to hide it? Hmmmm.

That's sad and has opposite than the desired effect. It makes race, ethnicity, and culture some kind of scarlet letter or controversial topic when it doesn't have to be. The way to make race not a bad thing is NOT to ignore it altogether. We all were taught some racial, ethnic, or cultural identities.

[SWTXBelle]

As has been mentioned, it may well be that a lack of non-white pnms is the cause of largely white chapters. That was the case at SMU - NPC sororities were criticized for not having any non-white members, and it was pointed out that there had been none who had gone through rush. Once some pnms of color went through, they were pledged. OP, perhaps you are the pioneer who can blaze a trail. If you are interested in what NPC sororities have to offer, I would encourage you to go through recruitment whether or not the current chapter make-up reflects your ethnic or racial background.