Drug Testing for welfare recipients

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

If you have a PhD and you cant get ANY other job then the military is always in need of people and you'll make much more than you can on unemployment. You wont make what you're worth, but you'll make enough to survive.

Do you think it's so easy to waltz right into the military?

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Do you think it's so easy to waltz right into the military?

I'm no expert, but isn't anyone who is considering going into the military required to get certain scores on an entrance-type test (with certain branches requiring different scores)? I can't remember the name. It's not something you can just "do."

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I'm no expert, but isn't anyone who is considering going into the military required to get certain scores on an entrance-type test (with certain branches requiring different scores)? I can't remember the name. It's not something you can just "do."

It's called the ASVAB, and if you score so low to the point that the military won't take you I suggest maybe you just pack it in. A retarded monkey can pass that test.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by AGDee

You can't join the military when you're 50 and have health problems. I think you're thinking of a totally different population than the people who are losing their jobs right now. The military is absolutely not an option for everybody. My brother was turned down in his 20's with his Masters in Health Administration because he had high blood pressure.
I'm thinking of the people who are commonly on welfare. Most of these people are not 50 year old people with multiple degrees. If you have health issues CLEARLY the military is not an option.
Moving to a foreign country would be an interesting proposition. No jobs in America? Then leave. Leave the best country in the world, seriously? I would never ever consider living in any other country. I don't see that as an option for the majority of people.
It may be the best country, but if its not the best for you then you need to make moves.
Our school districts sure aren't hiring. They're cutting back. And, you need a teacher's certificate to teach. PhDs don't generally have teaching certificates or an ability to teach. Unless you're referring to teaching at the university level. With as difficult as it is to get student loans right now, I imagine college enrollments will be dropping some and I don't think Universities are going to be hiring either.
I was speaking more so about universities. There are plenty of them that would hire a PhD over a person with a lesser education for the same amount.
The people I know who are getting laid off are mechanical engineers, chemical engineers, statisticians, accountants, finance specialists, marketing, management.. mostly in their late 40s and early 50s. They have careers and skills but there aren't enough jobs for them all. They aren't qualified to teach anywhere because they are Masters level people. They have aging parents they are caring for and kids in high school and college. They definitely aren't in the position to walk away from their houses and family to find a new job.
Again we're speaking of the few you know. They are not the majority. The welfare system was not designed for the purpose of helping 40-50 year old people with degrees and ASSETS. I don't see any person being eligible for welfare if they have assets.
I know one guy who works on the line for Ford. He worked in Michigan and his family was all here. He got involuntarily transferred to Kansas City and for the last THREE years has been maintaining two households because they can't sell their house and don't want to pull their kids out of their schools as teenagers to live in a studio apartment in Kansas City, which is all they can afford if they don't sell their house. He keeps hoping to get a transfer back here. I just see people panicking everywhere. When you go from a 6 figure income to $346 a week, you can't make your bills, even if you lived modestly. If you have a family of 5, you can't make it on $346 a week.
There are options that a family that has two residences has that a single mother with no job and no residence doesn't. If you have a home that you can't sell you can rent the home out. You can rent a room out to bring in extra money. Again, there are options.
It's looking like major doom and gloom again. I felt hopeful for a while, but all around me, people are panicking.

Maybe that is the difference between people around you and people around me. People around me aren't panicing. If you have a PhD and you're not smart enough to make it through tough times you need to step up to the learning curve.

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Do you think it's so easy to waltz right into the military?

No, I never said its easy. Its hard work. If you need work then you should be willing to do what is necessary to get work.