Drug Testing for welfare recipients

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

So, dont waste money trying to root out druggies which are the minority in the system. Reform the system ...

I would think that "rooting out druggies" IS a type of reformation.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

I would think that "rooting out druggies" IS a type of reformation.

It is a type of reformation. I was specific about the type of reformation which is why if you keep reading the sentence you find exactly how I would like to see it reformed. If it makes it more clear I'll say it this way:
Do not reform the welfare system by rooting out druggies. Reform the welfare system by subsidizing low wage workers and providing education and training.

[nikki1920]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

It is a type of reformation. I was specific about the type of reformation which is why if you keep reading the sentence you find exactly how I would like to see it reformed. If it makes it more clear I'll say it this way:
Do not reform the welfare system by rooting out druggies. Reform the welfare system by subsidizing low wage workers and providing education and training.

This is provided for those who receive cash assistance and SNAP benefits. A lot of people choose to ignore the education part of receiving assistance. But a lot of our clients are functionally illiterate, have undiagnosed comprehension, mental and processing issues/problems or have learning disabilities.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

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I think for me, the issue is just because these people are poor and using public assistance, doesn't mean that we can treat them as second class citizens. Today is drug testing, tomorrow it may be birth control (and probably just a requirement for women only), and who knows - even random searches of their homes.
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So, when people are required to drug test for a job, are they being treated as second class citizens?

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

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really? I dont get it. To me all people on welfare are welfare recipients and all welfare recipients are people on welfare.

I didn't say all people on welfare. READ.

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That was my point. Most of the people who complain about welfare base their complaints on the people they know or the people they've seen which is unrealisitc. Did DS see every woman who got a check on the first in his shoe store? No. Were most of the women he saw druggies? Probably not. So is it realistic to say that because he worked in that shoe store and dealt with those few women that this is how most/all welfare recipients are? No.

Hmmm so it's ok that some (read SOME) people are just plain ol lazy and don't want to work but continue having kids?

I swear some people act like welfare is a damn prize. Most people on welfare would rather not have it.

Unfortunately some (again read SOME) people on welfare do see it as that.

And let me reiterate since you apparently want to read things that aren't there...

I have absolutely no problem with good, law abiding people being on welfare if they are trying the best they can. I do have a problem with people who break the law (drugs, theft, violence, etc) who are not trying the best they can being on welfare.