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Old 03-11-2009, 09:09 AM
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but based on previous comments around here, it's not unlikely.

ETA: I'm not angry. don't want anyone to think I'm sitting here with steam coming out of my ears. I'm just saddened and perplexed that people are so desensitized that things like this are tolerated and brushed off.

Again, you are missing the whole point of this particular story.

You have a smoking gun and no witnesses to the crime nor a real 'credible' victim.


Hell I could just as easily go in there and do the same thing and cry wolf.

It's not that this is being tolerated, bit it's an isolated incident that no one can really do too much about adn again as I sated before, if there was malice behind this event and something that was on a far grander scale, I could see where there would be outrage, but this particular incident for what happened, it's not worth it.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:20 AM
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Again, you are missing the whole point of this particular story.

You have a smoking gun and no witnesses to the crime nor a real 'credible' victim.


Hell I could just as easily go in there and do the same thing and cry wolf.

It's not that this is being tolerated, bit it's an isolated incident that no one can really do too much about adn again as I sated before, if there was malice behind this event and something that was on a far grander scale, I could see where there would be outrage, but this particular incident for what happened, it's not worth it.
See my post about cameras.

I'm just shocked that people are just buying the BS Barnes and Noble is selling. He says it was a customer, no one questions it. I'm not missing the point. However, it's apparent that because people don't know the layout of the store, they are just going to buy his lies.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:25 AM
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See my post about cameras.

I'm just shocked that people are just buying the BS Barnes and Noble is selling. He says it was a customer, no one questions it. I'm not missing the point. However, it's apparent that because people don't know the layout of the store, they are just going to buy his lies.


What else is wrong with this picture?

If this was a prominent display, there is something else wrong with it...this is why I don't buy the whole "B&N entirely responsible" idea.



Let it go.

I am done.

This story is not worth the energy
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:57 PM
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What else is wrong with this picture?

If this was a prominent display, there is something else wrong with it...this is why I don't buy the whole "B&N entirely responsible" idea.

I'm not following you here. The display has clearly been tampered with and your explination is that it is not b&n's fault because theres something else wrong with it?

Let it go.

I am done.

This story is not worth the energy
Is this the store display behind the cashiers counter? B/c the displays like that at the b&ns that I've been to have always been behind the cashiers counter. If so then I understand being skeptical about who actually put it there because Im pretty sure all of the store workers arent going to be away from the cashiers area. There's always at least one there so it seems like someone should have seen it. Also it seems like they'd have camera footage of the area to be able to tell what happened. While I do not think this is an overall b&n issue I do think something is fishy with it being explained as "a customer did it". Especially because thats a common occurance. Its much more believeable and gives an actual explination instead of saying "We dont know". I'd like to hear the Tom Joyner interview this guy did. From what DI heard he seemed to have a 'tude. If he did then that makes it even more suspect. A customer may have done it. An employee may have done it. There arent any facts or proof for either side. There is evidence that may lead a person to believe one or the other. If you think the 2 foot space where a customer had access then you probably think a customer did it. If you think its behind the money where a customer is least likely to be able to get then you probably think its b&ns fault. Either way its your belief. One is no more wrong than the other.


I wont boycott B&N (I wont ever shop at that particular store if I ever have the option to do so because I think there'smore to this) because Im sure this is an isolated incident. I do think it was poorly handled by that stores management. No matter what anyone wants to say about it it was an act of racism. It is wrong. Ignoring it doesnt change the fact that it is racist and ignoring it makes it quite likely that it will happen again. B&N as a chain probably should take serious steps to ensure that it doesnt happen again (at this store or others) but they probably wont. They'll do a lil somethin and keep it moving. Why? No need to do so if theres no pressure placed on them.
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:07 PM
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I don't think people are really paying attention to the picture. DaemonSeid is so cryptic in all that he types. LOL.

Look at the reflection in the window.

Look at the display itself.

This is another reason why I want people to direct their outrage and protest at more worthy ventures. In many instances, people are pissed off but never paid attention to the content and the context. There should be no outrage and protest without information.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:26 PM
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I don't think people are really paying attention to the picture. DaemonSeid is so cryptic in all that he types. LOL.

Look at the reflection in the window.

Look at the display itself.

This is another reason why I want people to direct their outrage and protest at more worthy ventures. In many instances, people are pissed off but never paid attention to the content and the context. There should be no outrage and protest without information.

Im so not following you here. Its quite obvious that the pic was taken from the outside of the store. What does that have to do with who put the monkey book there?
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:46 PM
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Im so not following you here. Its quite obvious that the pic was taken from the outside of the store. What does that have to do with who put the monkey book there?
What's below the monkey book?
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:59 PM
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Im so not following you here. Its quite obvious that the pic was taken from the outside of the store. What does that have to do with who put the monkey book there?
I misunderstood what people meant when they said "display behind the cashier counter." The Barnes and Nobles here, even the ones I call "Mansion Bookstores," pretty much have run of the mill displays that customers can access. I'm not familiar with displays behind the cashier counter that only employees can access.

It's just way too convenient for a display like that to be available for customers to take pictures from the sidewalk. It was either a customer or a dumb employee that may or may not be discovered. Either way, it's nothing for that store or the corporation to take a hit for.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:31 PM
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I do think it was poorly handled by that stores management. No matter what anyone wants to say about it it was an act of racism. It is wrong. Ignoring it doesnt change the fact that it is racist and ignoring it makes it quite likely that it will happen again.
How do you figure it was "poorly handled" by management. It says in the article that when a customer brought it to the manager's attention, he immediately took the book & blocked all access to the display. I don't see that as poorly handled, nor "ignoring an act of racism."

IDK about your Barnes & Noble, but even the display behind the cashiers have an access where customers could get to it. Most of the time the cashiers are too busy to notice whether a customer goes back there or not. How do I know? Because I've gone back there before to get a friends attention.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:17 PM
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What else is wrong with this picture?

If this was a prominent display, there is something else wrong with it...this is why I don't buy the whole "B&N entirely responsible" idea.



Let it go.

I am done.

This story is not worth the energy
A-freakin men. Somebody here needs to exhale. Sorry, but I saw REAL crap when I was a little kid. This does NOT make the cut.

If you feel so strongly, then cross B and N off your list.
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