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03-10-2009, 01:46 PM
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Obviously, you and I will never agree and that's fine.
I, personally, feel that colleges benefit from having artists, musicians, athletes, mathmeticians, writers, etc. This is also believed by a vast majority of both public and private institutions. That is why they have Holistic Reviews when evaluating applications.
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Actually, you're wrong in stating that the reason I'm so against it is because of my kid.
I was against it 5 years ago when my oldest was accepted to UT because of NMF status; I was against it 2 years ago when my middle son was accepted because of class rank (he was 1%); I will be against it when this son is (most likely) accepted because he will be top 10% (unless he completely caves this semester - his class rank will be set at the end of this, his junior year).
The reason I'm against it, as are a large percentage of Texas residents, is because we are against the idea that college admissions should be decided by ONE factor and one factor only - as I laid out in my novel on the last page. And, I feel strongly that it will hurt our state college system in the long wrong to be shackled by this law that does not allow for any discretion on the part of the admissions committees to look at anything other than rank.
If college admissions based solely on rank is such a fair and fantastic method of acceptance, then why don't all schools move to this? It would certainly speed up the process and make it much more economical - no need to read those pesky resumes or essays, no need to verify test scores.
What a waste of time - CLASS RANK is the only indicator of how a student will perform!
You know, another biproduct of this would be to put the evil College Board (who administers the SAT) out of business! No need for test scores anymore!!
Let's start a movement!!
CLASS RANK IS KING!
FORGET HOLISTIC REVIEWS!
THIS WILL SOLVE ALL THE ILLS OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS!
I bet the Ivies will jump right on board! What do you think?
Last edited by srmom; 03-10-2009 at 01:49 PM.
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03-10-2009, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by srmom
Obviously, you and I will never agree and that's fine.
I, personally, feel that colleges benefit from having artists, musicians, athletes, mathmeticians, writers, etc. This is also believed by a vast majority of both public and private institutions. That is why they have Holistic Reviews when evaluating applications.
AND -
Actually, you're wrong in stating that the reason I'm so against it is because of my kid.
I was against it 5 years ago when my oldest was accepted to UT because of NMF status; I was against it 2 years ago when my middle son was accepted because of class rank (he was 1%); I will be against it when this son is (most likely) accepted because he will be top 10% (unless he completely caves this semester - his class rank will be set at the end of this, his junior year).
The reason I'm against it, as are a large percentage of Texas residents, is because we are against the idea that college admissions should be decided by ONE factor and one factor only - as I laid out in my novel on the last page. And, I feel strongly that it will hurt our state college system in the long wrong to be shackled by this law that does not allow for any discretion on the part of the admissions committees to look at anything other than rank.
If college admissions based solely on rank is such a fair and fantastic method of acceptance, then why don't all schools move to this? It would certainly speed up the process and make it much more economical - no need to read those pesky resumes or essays, no need to verify test scores.
What a waste of time - CLASS RANK is the only indicator of how a student will perform!
You know, another biproduct of this would be to put the evil College Board (who administers the SAT) out of business! No need for test scores anymore!!
Let's start a movement!!
CLASS RANK IS KING!
FORGET HOLISTIC REVIEWS!
THIS WILL SOLVE ALL THE ILLS OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS!
I bet the Ivies will jump right on board! What do you think?
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But doesn't this analysis only work if every student outside of the top 10% is shut out? I mean, there's still a chance for them to be admitted, right? They just won't get the automatic acceptance that goes with being in the top 10%?
I just think there's a big difference between the rule limiting the amount of people who get admitted, and completely shutting everyone else out. Looking at your analysis, you don't make that distinction.
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