Obama's Rhetoric is the Real Catastrophe

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

You really need to get over this martyr complex. Can't you just admit that there are posters that disagree with you, or at least disagree with your methodology?

Looking at it as some bigger issue, like a "mob" mentality, or that people are going to take issue with every thing you say, makes it seem like there's no possible problem with your logic. It makes it seem like there must be some issue with the rest of the posters if you don't find support for your theories. People are disagreeing you on both sides of the political spectrum; that doesn't make you right or wrong, but it does mean that you can't chalk this up to some simple claim that people "automatically" take issue with your points.

I disagree with a lot of your postings, but I have a bigger issue with this idea that there are people on the board who are out to get you. You've been fairly steadfast in your ideas; that's certainly your right, but you have to expect that some people are going to be just as steadfast in disagreeing with you, right?

LOL. This is why disclaimers for certain posters are unnecessary. Even after your disclaimer, you're still doing the same old gratuitous song and dance with deepimpact2.

ETA:
Might I add that this thread began with no one even thinking about deepimpact's existence. She announced her presence when she quoted my first post and said "hateration." People can't have it both ways, either you want to be noticed and be in the mix...or you don't. If you do, you understand that people may disagree with you and they will express that no matter how many people are disagreeing with you. Am I the only one who has disagreed with a room full of people IN REAL LIFE before? They weren't disagreeing with me, they were disagreeing with my ideas. I was right and they were wrong......so I stood strong in what I believed, had my evidence, and didn't get defensive and personal about it. At the end, some people came up to me off the record and said "good job!" or "ya know, I agreed with you but didn't know how to express it" (those types of people are cowards, btw).

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. This is why disclaimers for certain posters are unnecessary. Even after your disclaimer, you're still doing the same old gratuitous song and dance with deepimpact2.

ETA:
Might I add that this thread began with no one even thinking about deepimpact's existence. She announced her presence when she quoted my first post and said "hateration." People can't have it both ways, either you want to be noticed and be in the mix...or you don't. If you do, you understand that people may disagree with you and they will express that no matter how many people are disagreeing with you. Am I the only one who has disagreed with a room full of people IN REAL LIFE before? They weren't disagreeing with me, they were disagreeing with my ideas. I was right and they were wrong......so I stood strong in what I believed, had my evidence, and didn't get defensive and personal about it. At the end, some people came up to me off the record and said "good job!" or "ya know, I agreed with you but didn't know how to express it" (those types of people are cowards, btw).

The disclaimer was meant more in sarcasm than anything else. As sarcasm doesn't always hit its mark over a message board, I probably should have just scrapped the idea.

You're not the only person who has had those experiences. It's happened to me in both academic and professional settings, and I'm sure it's happened to other people on the board.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

The disclaimer was meant more in sarcasm than anything else. As sarcasm doesn't always hit its mark over a message board, I probably should have just scrapped the idea.

Now I cyber-feel less cyber-heartless. Deepimpact2 appreciates your disclaimer, though.

Originally Posted by KSigkid

You're not the only person who has had those experiences. It's happened to me in both academic and professional settings, and I'm sure it's happened to other people on the board.

Those academic and professional mobs are deadly and out to get us.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Those academic and professional mobs are deadly and out to get us.

Absolutely - if you don't watch out you could end up with thesis buried in your skull. Always have to be watching your back around them...

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

The disclaimer was meant more in sarcasm than anything else. As sarcasm doesn't always hit its mark over a message board, I probably should have just scrapped the idea.

You're not the only person who has had those experiences. It's happened to me in both academic and professional settings, and I'm sure it's happened to other people on the board.

Was it really sarcasm, or are you now buckling under pressure from Dr. Phil?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Was it really sarcasm, or are you now buckling under pressure from Dr. Phil?

You're suggesting that KSigKid cares about usernames' opinions and is unsure of himself. That is a ridiculous assumption on your part.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I think I have stated more than once that isn't not a matter of someone disagreeing. It's the fact that there is disagreement with pretty much EVERYTHING I say and an attempt to find something wrong with just about EVERYTHING I say. When that happens, it's pretty clear that it's not a matter of simple disagreement, but that it's more of a personal issue. Someone on here admitted that I "turned people off with my first post." That in and of itself suggests that there is a prejudice against me and anything I have to say around here.

To be honest, I've disagreed with 99% of what you've posted on here, and it's not that big a deal to me. I don't know who you are, and I'm not "prejudiced" against you; I just don't agree with your opinions.

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Was it really sarcasm, or are you now buckling under pressure from Dr. Phil?

Why would I be buckling under pressure from a screenname? I don't know DrPhil, and while I think she makes some good points in her posts, I really could care less what she thinks of me. I'm not lacking in self-confidence or self-worth to the point that I would allow message board posters to change my behavior, or "pressure" me.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

To be honest, I've disagreed with 99% of what you've posted on here, and it's not that big a deal to me. I don't know who you are, and I'm not "prejudiced" against you; I just don't agree with your opinions.



Why would I be buckling under pressure from a screenname? I don't know DrPhil, and while I think she makes some good points in her posts, I really could care less what she thinks of me. I'm not lacking in self-confidence or self-worth to the point that I would allow message board posters to change my behavior, or "pressure" me.

I can understand your point. However, I must add that I find it rather odd that someone would disagree with 99% of someone's opinions. I can't think of anyone in real life who I disagree with on 99% of their opinions. Say what you like, but that sounds like someone who has just made it up in their mind that no matter what that person says, they are going to find some way to disagree with it.

As for the part about buckling under pressure, when you put it that way, it may sound ridiculous, but considering how cliquish this forum is, it's not that farfetched. Yet, again we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

However, I must add that I find it rather odd that someone would disagree with 99% of someone's opinions. I can't think of anyone in real life who I disagree with on 99% of their opinions.

Then you are speaking for yourself. Stop attributing your feelings to others.

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

As for the part about buckling under pressure, when you put it that way, it may sound ridiculous, but considering how cliquish this forum is, it's not that farfetched. Yet, again we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

There's really nothing to agree to disagree about. Once again, your assumptions are your own. Stop confusing them with the absolute truth.

The topic of this thread is actually about perception and assumptions versus reality and how much overlap there is.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I can understand your point. However, I must add that I find it rather odd that someone would disagree with 99% of someone's opinions. I can't think of anyone in real life who I disagree with on 99% of their opinions. Say what you like, but that sounds like someone who has just made it up in their mind that no matter what that person says, they are going to find some way to disagree with it.

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

As for the part about buckling under pressure, when you put it that way, it may sound ridiculous, but considering how cliquish this forum is, it's not that farfetched. Yet, again we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Just keep on looking for conspiracies and mob mentalities. I really don't know what to say anymore, and at the end of the day I don't care.

Good luck, and I sincerely hope you have more appetite for intelligent debate in real life.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Just keep on looking for conspiracies and mob mentalities. I really don't know what to say anymore, and at the end of the day I don't care.

Good luck, and I sincerely hope you have more appetite for intelligent debate in real life.

And I sincerely hope one day that you learn the difference between intelligent debate and just disagreeing because of personal issues you have.