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03-06-2009, 05:32 PM
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4439183.ece
The original story left out some details. He also disemboweled the victim. The guy is a nut and they should fry him.
DamonSaid will probably organize a Free OJ type protest.
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03-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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He also disemboweled the victim.
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03-06-2009, 05:51 PM
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He tore the guy apart. They found his nose, ears and tongue in the mad man's pocket, and the rest of him was all over the bus. I can't imagine what his family must feel. I, too, am surprised that a group of people didn't try to stop him...I can understand one guy being afraid to, what with the knife weilding psycho, but a few of them could have probably unarmed him.
I believe that this guy was mentally ill, but I think he should be hospitalized for life. If someone is THIS crazy, I don't think they're ever going to be reliably well ever again.
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03-06-2009, 10:36 PM
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The "trial" (if you want to call if that) is already over, which is why this thread was bumped (go back a page) and he was found criminally not responsible for reason of insanity.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...i-verdict.html
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03-07-2009, 12:01 AM
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It's interesting that the defense attorney states that he felt remorse after the verdict had been handed down. Coming at this from a US perspective, the fact that he could appreciate remorse would seem to weigh against an insanity defense.
Is there a big outcry against the Canadian justice system after this ruling?
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03-07-2009, 12:45 AM
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Is there a big outcry against the Canadian justice system after this ruling?
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Not that I have heard. I don't think it made much of a "ripple" in terms of news coverage.
Some people commented on news websites and that's about it.
These are the things that bother me a bit (from source: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0305/20090305/)
"With the NCR declaration, Li will not have a criminal record."
"His case must also be reviewed on an annual basis by a mental health review board." (so, he could be released to the public one day, as long as he stays on his meds....which is positively a frightening spectre)
and I feel terribly for the family of the victim, who basically have to revisit this case every year for the rest of their (or his) life:
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/Redirect/?ClipId=146869
My thoughts are, I don't care if he is in jail or in a hospital, just as long as he is never ever released into the public.
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03-08-2009, 08:12 PM
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Not that I have heard. I don't think it made much of a "ripple" in terms of news coverage.
Some people commented on news websites and that's about it.
These are the things that bother me a bit (from source: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0305/20090305/)
"With the NCR declaration, Li will not have a criminal record."
"His case must also be reviewed on an annual basis by a mental health review board." (so, he could be released to the public one day, as long as he stays on his meds....which is positively a frightening spectre)
and I feel terribly for the family of the victim, who basically have to revisit this case every year for the rest of their (or his) life:
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/Redirect/?ClipId=146869
My thoughts are, I don't care if he is in jail or in a hospital, just as long as he is never ever released into the public.
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I don't know much about the Candian criminal justice system, but does an insanity defense leave to longterm confinement in a treatment facility?
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03-09-2009, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by KSigkid
It's interesting that the defense attorney states that he felt remorse after the verdict had been handed down. Coming at this from a US perspective, the fact that he could appreciate remorse would seem to weigh against an insanity defense.
Is there a big outcry against the Canadian justice system after this ruling?
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could it be misconstrued that he was insane at the time or does timeframe matter in these instances?
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03-09-2009, 10:47 AM
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could it be misconstrued that he was insane at the time or does timeframe matter in these instances?
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Again, I'm not a criminal law expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt...but my understanding is that in the United States, temporary insanity can't be offered as an affirmative defense. It can only be offered as a mitigating factor to take into account when handing down a sentence.
It may be a different story in Canada.
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03-07-2009, 12:14 AM
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Do you have a problem with insanity as a defense in general, in just this case, or . . . other, I guess?
I guess this seems like a pretty solid use of the plea, and unless you're a big-time capital punishment proponent (or social Darwinist), I'm not sure what else should have happened here that didn't.
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