Sleeping Man Beheaded on Greyhound Bus

[madmax]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4439183.ece


The original story left out some details. He also disemboweled the victim. The guy is a nut and they should fry him.

DamonSaid will probably organize a Free OJ type protest.

[LucyKKG]

Originally Posted by madmax

He also disemboweled the victim.

Whaaaaaaaaaat???

[PeppyGPhiB]

He tore the guy apart. They found his nose, ears and tongue in the mad man's pocket, and the rest of him was all over the bus. I can't imagine what his family must feel. I, too, am surprised that a group of people didn't try to stop him...I can understand one guy being afraid to, what with the knife weilding psycho, but a few of them could have probably unarmed him.

I believe that this guy was mentally ill, but I think he should be hospitalized for life. If someone is THIS crazy, I don't think they're ever going to be reliably well ever again.

[CutiePie2000]

The "trial" (if you want to call if that) is already over, which is why this thread was bumped (go back a page) and he was found criminally not responsible for reason of insanity.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...i-verdict.html

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

The "trial" (if you want to call if that) is already over, which is why this thread was bumped (go back a page) and he was found criminally not responsible for reason of insanity.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...i-verdict.html

It's interesting that the defense attorney states that he felt remorse after the verdict had been handed down. Coming at this from a US perspective, the fact that he could appreciate remorse would seem to weigh against an insanity defense.

Is there a big outcry against the Canadian justice system after this ruling?

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Is there a big outcry against the Canadian justice system after this ruling?

Not that I have heard. I don't think it made much of a "ripple" in terms of news coverage.

Some people commented on news websites and that's about it.

These are the things that bother me a bit (from source: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0305/20090305/)
"With the NCR declaration, Li will not have a criminal record."
"His case must also be reviewed on an annual basis by a mental health review board." (so, he could be released to the public one day, as long as he stays on his meds....which is positively a frightening spectre)

and I feel terribly for the family of the victim, who basically have to revisit this case every year for the rest of their (or his) life:
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/Redirect/?ClipId=146869

My thoughts are, I don't care if he is in jail or in a hospital, just as long as he is never ever released into the public.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

Not that I have heard. I don't think it made much of a "ripple" in terms of news coverage.

Some people commented on news websites and that's about it.

These are the things that bother me a bit (from source: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0305/20090305/)
"With the NCR declaration, Li will not have a criminal record."
"His case must also be reviewed on an annual basis by a mental health review board." (so, he could be released to the public one day, as long as he stays on his meds....which is positively a frightening spectre)

and I feel terribly for the family of the victim, who basically have to revisit this case every year for the rest of their (or his) life:
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/Redirect/?ClipId=146869

My thoughts are, I don't care if he is in jail or in a hospital, just as long as he is never ever released into the public.

I don't know much about the Candian criminal justice system, but does an insanity defense leave to longterm confinement in a treatment facility?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

It's interesting that the defense attorney states that he felt remorse after the verdict had been handed down. Coming at this from a US perspective, the fact that he could appreciate remorse would seem to weigh against an insanity defense.

Is there a big outcry against the Canadian justice system after this ruling?

could it be misconstrued that he was insane at the time or does timeframe matter in these instances?

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by starang21

could it be misconstrued that he was insane at the time or does timeframe matter in these instances?

Again, I'm not a criminal law expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt...but my understanding is that in the United States, temporary insanity can't be offered as an affirmative defense. It can only be offered as a mitigating factor to take into account when handing down a sentence.

It may be a different story in Canada.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

The "trial" (if you want to call if that) is already over, which is why this thread was bumped (go back a page) and he was found criminally not responsible for reason of insanity.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/st...i-verdict.html

Do you have a problem with insanity as a defense in general, in just this case, or . . . other, I guess?

I guess this seems like a pretty solid use of the plea, and unless you're a big-time capital punishment proponent (or social Darwinist), I'm not sure what else should have happened here that didn't.