Declared inactive (Feb 2009)

[AndrewPiChi]

Originally Posted by naraht

Alpha Delta is in the Duquesne IFC, which basically means that once those who are brothers of APO have graduated, the school moves back to being a decent extension possibility. In fact in some ways having Alpha Delta there would be helpful in at least one way, if Gamma Sigma Sigma at Duquesne continues to consider Alpha Delta as their brother fraternity, they are less likely to affect an extension effort than the average GSS chapter.

As for Alpha Delta's situation at Duquesne, the school appears to have recently completed an effort to get rid of its locals either by having their affiliate with a National or by getting rid of them entirely. Yes, Alpha Delta is a national, but in terms of certain characteristics it is closer to some of the locals that they've gotten rid of than the Nationals that replaced them. Oddly enough I could see Alpha Delta at Duquesne getting some pressure to affiliate with an NIC fraternity (Just to pick one out of the air, Kappa Alpha Order doesn't have chapters at any of the three schools with Alpha Delta)

While there is nothing I can really do or say (nor would I ever interfer with an Alpha Phi Omega extension effort) to stop Alpha Phi Omega rechartering at Duquesne, wouldn't the 'new breed' of Alpha Phi Omega when they come back be slightly curious as to where 44 years of Alumni are....

And yes, Alpha Delta is National. It isn't local, has no plans to be local and unless the dice roll against us it won't be.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by AndrewPiChi

While there is nothing I can really do or say (nor would I ever interfer with an Alpha Phi Omega extension effort) to stop Alpha Phi Omega rechartering at Duquesne, wouldn't the 'new breed' of Alpha Phi Omega when they come back be slightly curious as to where 44 years of Alumni are....

And yes, Alpha Delta is National. It isn't local, has no plans to be local and unless the dice roll against us it won't be.

While theoretically a rechartering effort has the same requirements as a chartering effort, attempting to contact alumni of the chapter and determine the prior chapter's incarnation history are part of the process for a rechartering effort. (But I think that's not in the checklist until the group is a PG.)

While theoretically, with the school's permission, Alpha Phi Omega could start a rechartering effort today, I *personally* think it is a *really* bad idea. I personally would not suggest it until at least half of the Alpha Delta brothers at Duquesne are not also brothers of Alpha Phi Omega. (The chapter may be defunct, but you and those initiated into Pi Chi chapter are my brothers). And waiting until there are no brothers of AD who are brothers of Alpha Phi Omega is probably a better idea. So at minimum, Fall of 2011, more likely Fall of 2013. (Yes, I know there are some people who take more than 4 years to get through.)

I don't believe that I indicated the Alpha Delta was a local. I am well aware that there were three groups that formed the National. However, if the school's desire for national greeks over local greeks was driven by desire to have its greeks have FIPG access, a significant fiscal cushion and other similar reasons, then Alpha Delta won't fit those desires much better than the locals did. I would be interested in what the smallest (by chapters) of the other members of the Duquesne IFC. Yes, they allowed Alpha Phi Omega and allow Gamma Sigma Sigma, but different rules for the socials and the non-socials at most schools.

Randy

[ques26]

Originally Posted by naraht

While theoretically a rechartering effort has the same requirements as a chartering effort, attempting to contact alumni of the chapter and determine the prior chapter's incarnation history are part of the process for a rechartering effort. (But I think that's not in the checklist until the group is a PG.)

While theoretically, with the school's permission, Alpha Phi Omega could start a rechartering effort today, I *personally* think it is a *really* bad idea. I personally would not suggest it until at least half of the Alpha Delta brothers at Duquesne are not also brothers of Alpha Phi Omega. (The chapter may be defunct, but you and those initiated into Pi Chi chapter are my brothers). And waiting until there are no brothers of AD who are brothers of Alpha Phi Omega is probably a better idea. So at minimum, Fall of 2011, more likely Fall of 2013. (Yes, I know there are some people who take more than 4 years to get through.)

I don't believe that I indicated the Alpha Delta was a local. I am well aware that there were three groups that formed the National. However, if the school's desire for national greeks over local greeks was driven by desire to have its greeks have FIPG access, a significant fiscal cushion and other similar reasons, then Alpha Delta won't fit those desires much better than the locals did. I would be interested in what the smallest (by chapters) of the other members of the Duquesne IFC. Yes, they allowed Alpha Phi Omega and allow Gamma Sigma Sigma, but different rules for the socials and the non-socials at most schools.

Randy

National is destroying this fraternity from what Frank Reed Horton want!

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by ques26

National is destroying this fraternity from what Frank Reed Horton want!

Did you attend the last national convention?

[emb021]

Originally Posted by ques26

National is destroying this fraternity from what Frank Reed Horton want!

Who is "National"?

Do you really know what FRH wanted?