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Old 02-26-2009, 02:50 PM
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Tri-Delt wasn't really a struggling chapter at Miami, unless things have fallen off in the 3 years since I was a student. They were never a "top tier" chapter, but I sincerely doubt that it had anything to do with the decision to pull the chapter.
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Old 02-26-2009, 08:37 PM
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Tri-Delt wasn't really a struggling chapter at Miami, unless things have fallen off in the 3 years since I was a student. They were never a "top tier" chapter, but I sincerely doubt that it had anything to do with the decision to pull the chapter.
"Never" is a strong word. Tri Delt was one of the top chapters in the late 70s and early 80s. There is a shift every year on "tiers", and with so many chapters, it's very subjective.

As for the comment on the Zeta recolonization....
I spent one semester at Miami over 25 years ago (the longest 4 months of my life). Since then, Zeta recolonized twice, Phi Mu once, KD once, ASA once (and gone), and AEPhi once. There may be more, but those are the only chapters that I can recall. There are also chapters that have left the campus for good.

Miami is a very strong Greek campus, and even though there are no houses, chapters will try very hard to bring it back strong. Tri Delta has such a strong history and I think the administration is over-reacting to the event. Sure they broke the rules, but what chapters doesn't?
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:06 PM
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I think the administration is over-reacting to the event. Sure they broke the rules, but what chapters doesn't?
If the Enquirer article I read was correct, medical attention was needed for excessive alcohol consumption. In that case, a two year suspension does not seem like an over-reaction. No one's risk management policies can afford to ignore that situation. The scenario is every advisor's nightmare.

I hope they are able to come back strong in 2011.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:27 PM
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If the Enquirer article I read was correct, medical attention was needed for excessive alcohol consumption. In that case, a two year suspension does not seem like an over-reaction. No one's risk management policies can afford to ignore that situation. The scenario is every advisor's nightmare.

I hope they are able to come back strong in 2011.
I hate when newspapers say that medical attention was "needed." Sure, out of concern for safety, medical attention was sought. That doesn't necessarily mean that these girls wouldn't have been fine the next day (except for a nasty hangover).

It's my worry that releasing these sorts of details and making it seem to be a factor that medical attention was sought and utilized results in many cases of individuals refusing to take someone to the emergency room where medical attention is crucial because they're afraid of the consequences of seeking medical attention.

These sorts of details need to stay between the kid getting medical attention and the facility where they receive it.

I don't know whether this was a big factor here or even a factor at all. I'm just saying that --in general--, this sort of wording troubles me.
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:07 AM
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i'm very much in line with everyone else about not spreading "rumors" that are unsubstantiated, but at the same time, nothing is MORE embarrassing to me both as a student and a sister than when clear facts, and reasoning are not both brought to light AND discussed. i can honestly say, i would be less ashamed to announce what happened at another chapter of my sorority than i would be to announce that we had hidden things from other students, administration, media, parents, etc. i am MEMBER of tri delta in a different chapter at a university that is literally 3 hours from miami, and even have 2 sisters that transferred and live in the house FROM miami, and it was news to me to see "tridelta" listed on that hazing form. the point is, we all have SO much to gain from openly discussing what happened, and how it affects ALL of us as a greek community. it is, after all, what the forum is for, as an opportunity to learn from each other. these hazing incidents should be EXPLICITELY discussed, not bashed, but discussed as it is a truly sobering (no pun intended!) thing to hear about.
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:06 PM
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I know this is a late response but...

A good friend of mine at our church was a Tri-Delt from Miami U. She is really really angry and can't believe this happened. She stated that hazing was never tolerated or even something they considered when she was a member in the early '90's. This is a very sad situation as the Alumnae are hurt as well. According to her this really screws up the 100 Anniversary Celebration she hoped to be a part of.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:05 AM
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"Never" is a strong word. Tri Delt was one of the top chapters in the late 70s and early 80s. There is a shift every year on "tiers", and with so many chapters, it's very subjective.

As for the comment on the Zeta recolonization....
I spent one semester at Miami over 25 years ago (the longest 4 months of my life). Since then, Zeta recolonized twice, Phi Mu once, KD once, ASA once (and gone), and AEPhi once. There may be more, but those are the only chapters that I can recall. There are also chapters that have left the campus for good.

Miami is a very strong Greek campus, and even though there are no houses, chapters will try very hard to bring it back strong. Tri Delta has such a strong history and I think the administration is over-reacting to the event. Sure they broke the rules, but what chapters doesn't?
I'm perfectly aware of tier shifts, as I spent four years at Miami (the BEST four years of my life). You're missing the point I'm making, which is that in no way was Tri-Delt the "lowest ranking" chapter on campus. A previous poster implied that the chapter was pulled more for its reputation, and I'm saying there's no way a national organization is going to pull a 98-year-old chapter because it doesn't have the hottest members on campus. The only thing wrong with Tri-Delt's reputation is they were certainly known as party girls.

I know you didn't like Miami -- that's fine. But the vast majority of other chapters at Miami don't act this way. I can say definitively that my chapter never behaved like this, and I have friends in every single chapter, most of who were shocked to hear what the Tri-Delt chapter had done. I don't think the administration overreacted in the slightest.
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