LOST - Season 5 - Page 8

BetteDavisEyes · #**106** 02-21-2009, 12:47 AM

All good theories.

I agree with the theory that the reason Ben is beat up is b/c when he said he had a promise to fulfill (or something to that effect), it's b/c his promise was to Widmore. Widmore had Alex killed so Ben killed Penny. After all, he WAS on the boatyard beat up & bloody when he called Jack to tell him to pick up Locke.

Next week's episode looks awesome! Locke is alive? He was talking to the agent that had Sayid. I can't wait for the Jin/Sun reunion.

Hurley brought a guitar on board. Odd isn't it? Maybe Charlie was the one who told him to take it since Charlie had a guitar with him when he was on the plane the first time.

SWTXBelle · #**107** 02-21-2009, 11:41 AM

I don't think Aaron is completely out of the picture - being a b.o.i. has got to have some signficance. (Born on the island, for those not familiar with the term - Houstonians know it in reference to Galveston).

Penny better not be dead.

Although it would provide motivation for Desmond to return to the island - to kill Ben.

tangelo212 · #**108** 02-21-2009, 12:14 PM

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So my little and I were discussing this week's episode today and we have a few theories:

The passengers on the plane are supposed to be representative of some of the original passengers, and even if some of the passengers are the same, they might not necessarily represent themselves (like Locke replacing Christian).

For example: Sayid was brought on by a woman who looks like a cop, won't leave his side and appears to be escorting him somewhere. The hunch is that he is replacing Kate. The cop with him is representing either Ana Lucia or the agent who was bringing Kate back to the U.S. (could be either, really).

The man who was in line behind Jack at the ticketing area said the same line Sayid said to Jack before the first flight (something about being sorry to hear about his loss), and previews for next week show him on the Island, so he's probably replacing Sayid.

We also suspect that Kate is pregnant (she DID just sleep with Jack), and therefore representing Claire, since she doesn't need to represent herself. Sun, Hurley and Jack are more likely than not themselves (Jack especially).

It's kind of a long-shot, but if you think about it, it makes sense.

I actually thought about this too. Don't forget, Hurley was carrying a guitar on the plane, so he could be representing Charlie.

I also really don't think Ben killed Penny, I just don't. He is capable of evil, but I don't think he killed her.

BetteDavisEyes · #**109** 02-21-2009, 01:00 PM

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I also really don't think Ben killed Penny, I just don't. He is capable of evil, but I don't think he killed her.

I disagree b/c last year, he ordered the crazy Russian guy to kill the 2 women guarding Charlie. He also orchestrated the death of everyone on the island associated with the Dharma Initiative and his own father. He even told Richard to leave his father's body in the car & not to retrieve it. Is it colder to order people to be killed or to kill someone yourself? Either way, I think Ben is capable of way more than you think.

SydneyK · #**110** 02-21-2009, 01:02 PM

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...The passengers on the plane are supposed to be representative of some of the original passengers, and even if some of the passengers are the same, they might not necessarily represent themselves (like Locke replacing Christian).

...Sun, Hurley and Jack are more likely than not themselves (Jack especially).

As tangelo mentioned, Hurley could be Charlie's proxy (by bringing the guitar).

On F815, Sawyer brought with him a letter that was important to him. On F316, Jack had the letter from Locke. Perhaps Jack is Sawyer's proxy.

On F815, Rose was holding Bernard's wedding ring. On F316, Sun was holding Jin's ring. So, Sun is Rose's proxy.

Even the guy who was standing behind Jack in line at the ticket counter said (paraphrasing), "Sorry about your loss." Sayid said the same thing to Jack before boarding F815 (referring to Christian). So, Sayid has a proxy we haven't really met yet.

Not long after LOST started, the creators said that everything we needed to know was in the pilot. I'm starting to see now why they said that. (Although part of me wonders whether the 'pilot' with all the answers is Lapedus, not the pilot episode.)

Thetagirl218 · #**111** 02-21-2009, 02:44 PM

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Yeah and how DID Sayid and Hurley know about that flight?

I have no clue about Sayid although the feeling is he was being sent back to Iraq for some reason...

I have a hunch that Charlie told Hurley to get on the flight, hence the guitar....

Which episode is Lapedus?

I think Ben killed Penny so now Desmond will come back to kill Ben....Remember Ellie said that the island was not done with him....

What I can't wrap my head around....How could you just up and leave you kid when you know you will be gone forever? Example, Sun just leaves her daughter and Kate just leaves Aaron....I think she left Aaron with his Grandmother.

SydneyK · #**112** 02-21-2009, 03:12 PM

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Which episode is Lapedus?

Lapedus is the pilot of Flight 316. He is also the pilot of the helicopter that Miles, Charlotte and Faraday came to the island on, which is the same helicopter the O6 escaped the island & freighter on.

Yes, I ended that sentence with a preposition. But you all know what I mean.

PhiMuTillIDie · #**113** 02-21-2009, 05:20 PM

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Lapedus is the pilot of Flight 316. He is also the pilot of the helicopter that Miles, Charlotte and Faraday came to the island on, which is the same helicopter the O6 escaped the island & freighter on.

Yes, I ended that sentence with a preposition. But you all know what I mean.

Another weird thing I just thought about is the numbers. Flight 815 had two of the numbers in it (4 8 15 16 23 42)... This new one only has one of them. Maybe that means something? Like, 815 is comprised of ALL numbers from the combination in the hatch, and that's why the whole plane crashed. This flight number (316) is only half from the combination, so it didn't crash-land because the island only needed half of the passengers on it?

ASTalumna06 · #**114** 02-21-2009, 09:08 PM

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I also really don't think Ben killed Penny, I just don't. He is capable of evil, but I don't think he killed her.

Oh, I definitely think it's possible. Ben really only became 'friends' and helped everyone from the flight to save his own ass. I don't think his motives have ever been pure. I've been waiting for him to do something wrong/bad.

twinkle555 · #**115** 02-23-2009, 05:08 PM

Ok so if the island can move physically and through time, then maybe that giant foot statue is what is left of the Colossus of Rhodes? And maybe the island at one point moved to the Antarctic...that would explain the polar bear from the first season? Who knows, just popped into my head...

SydneyK · #**116** 02-23-2009, 05:21 PM

I think the polar bear has already been explained. Remember when Sawyer and Kate were locked in the cages - those were where the Dharma folks kept the bears. Ever since we saw Ben turn the frozen donkey wheel, I guess I assumed the bears were trained to be the ones to push the wheel (remember when Charlotte found the body of a polar bear with a Dharma collar on somehwere in the Tunisian desert?).

DaemonSeid · #**117** 02-25-2009, 10:13 PM

uhhh why was john kidnapped by quaeda?

heh

uh oooohh

a 'war' is coming...

tri deezy · #**118** 02-25-2009, 11:09 PM

I <3 John Locke. And, where the heck has Claire been?

twinkle555 · #**119** 02-25-2009, 11:13 PM

Ok..so I still dont know who Ben killed...

SWTXBelle · #**120** 02-25-2009, 11:20 PM

Well, he killed JOHN . . . do you mean someone else? Like at the marina?