Thinking about starting a new fraternity on campus...Need advice

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

That's a very cool arrangement. The fee is still something you'll need the numbers to be able to pay.

I guess for now your main concern would be getting the requisite number of guys you need to form a colony. Even if a national org doesn't require a certain # of guys to make a colony, they still will require a certain # in order to make a chapter.

That's going to be your biggest hurdle in terms of starting a new group.

Yea, the group I am considering requires 20 members to start and by 2nd pledge we should obtain about 40-50

But I will not start with less than 30 members starting Fall 2009

That fee is something to have to look as of right now since the village is not complete, We have now until Fall 2009 to gain 30 members.
With that 30 members each member will only have to pay their regular fees and an additional $20/month for the fee t be covered.

I am thinking about mainly targeting incoming freshman and transfer students.....I am in the process of talking with on of the better sororities on campus to help with recruitment

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by sagent19

I am in the process of talking with on of the better sororities on campus to help with recruitment

Note: The process of recruiting men is a bit different than a sorority recruiting women.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Note: The process of recruiting men is a bit different than a sorority recruiting women.

I think he means having them show up at rush parties as hostesses. Be very careful with this concept, if you get a rep before you're even established as snobbish and not wanting to socialize w/ the "lower" sororities, the girls will be ticked and your name will be mud. Ask women from ALL the sororities.

Question: if you don't like Theta Chi & Phi Delt's alcohol policies, why do you want to go with them? It seems counterproductive. It would be one thing if this was a specific value you espoused, but it seems to be something you see as a negative. You should look at other fraternities instead - you don't want to be fighting w/ your national from the moment you begin.

[pshsx1]

I'm not sure what national fraternity would have a pro-alcohol policy, though..

I friend of mine founded a Theta Chi colony a few years ago and it's now a strong thriving chapter with around 40 guys. It's at a fairly large school, so of course 40 isn't large, but they're doing what they can. You just have to really be committed and never lose that drive to be great.

[33girl]

Most national fraternities do NOT have a policy that bans alcohol completely from the house. Phi Delt and Theta Chi do, at least for new chapters.

He seems to be upset with that restriction, therefore I suggested he pursue a group that doesn't have it.

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Most national fraternities do NOT have a policy that bans alcohol completely from the house. Phi Delt and Theta Chi do, at least for new chapters.

He seems to be upset with that restriction, therefore I suggested he pursue a group that doesn't have it.

hey you were completely correct about the sororities thing I guess I didnt explain myself well enough. Of course there will be socializing with all but when I said main I basically meant the one with the most recognition and having the experience to put on social events.

Because I was thinking as a first event (not that all established) if we were to have a event with a lesser known one in the beginning the turnout would not be as great if we had the one everyone knows etc...

But of course as time goes on social events would NOT be limited to just one it would be all

**I am not "upset" I am just concerned about the fact that it can not be present in or on house property or at any event that displays the fraternities name**But with looking into it more I have decided to go with Beta Theta Pi

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

I'm not sure what national fraternity would have a pro-alcohol policy, though..

I friend of mine founded a Theta Chi colony a few years ago and it's now a strong thriving chapter with around 40 guys. It's at a fairly large school, so of course 40 isn't large, but they're doing what they can. You just have to really be committed and never lose that drive to be great.

Thanks for your reply I was really wanting one to be pro-alcohol but rather one that allowed you if you were of age to be resposible if you chose to maybe drink a beer or something in the house or even outside (which is prohibited)

I was just mainly concerned if maybe that would hurt recuritment chances, because the fraternity can not be apart of ANY social event that will have alcohol present

[Frenzy]

Me and 12 of my other friends started a new chapter in my school. We were kinda bored of the Greeks in our school and we did not liked how most of them portrayed themselves. So we wanted to start something of our own. Then a nationally recognized fraternity contacted us but soon we figured out that fraternity was banned from our school at 2002, and we figured this was all just another business to them. Then we found a new fraternity that a bunch of guys and gals started in UCONN Called Lambda Lambda Lambda or Tri-Lam. So we did all arrangements and Became the Beta chapter of Of this Fraternity. This is a Co-ed fraternity and a very diverse one too. Now there is 2 more chapters are begining to Form in Albany and in Illinoise.
If this is something you might be interested in for feel like I might be able to give you any tips let me know.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Frenzy

Me and 12 of my other friends started a new chapter in my school. We were kinda bored of the Greeks in our school and we did not liked how most of them portrayed themselves. So we wanted to start something of our own. Then a nationally recognized fraternity contacted us but soon we figured out that fraternity was banned from our school at 2002, and we figured this was all just another business to them. Then we found a new fraternity that a bunch of guys and gals started in UCONN Called Lambda Lambda Lambda or Tri-Lam. So we did all arrangements and Became the Beta chapter of Of this Fraternity. This is a Co-ed fraternity and a very diverse one too. Now there is 2 more chapters are begining to Form in Albany and in Illinoise.
If this is something you might be interested in for feel like I might be able to give you any tips let me know.

Based on the OP's posts, it seems like he is more interested in chartering an NIC fraternity on his campus.

[sagent19]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I think he means having them show up at rush parties as hostesses. Be very careful with this concept, if you get a rep before you're even established as snobbish and not wanting to socialize w/ the "lower" sororities, the girls will be ticked and your name will be mud. Ask women from ALL the sororities.

Question: if you don't like Theta Chi & Phi Delt's alcohol policies, why do you want to go with them? It seems counterproductive. It would be one thing if this was a specific value you espoused, but it seems to be something you see as a negative. You should look at other fraternities instead - you don't want to be fighting w/ your national from the moment you begin.

lol, well I actually have no problem with that policy b/c I don't drink myself (so that wouldnt be a issue for me). I was just wanting to know if that specific policy would make it harder to get people to join....

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sagent19

lol, well I actually have no problem with that policy b/c I don't drink myself (so that wouldnt be a issue for me). I was just wanting to know if that specific policy would make it harder to get people to join....

It depends on your campus, honestly. Some places people will welcome that as an option and will like the idea of substance-free living...some places the complete opposite. You know your campus the best and how well it will go over.