Obama's Rhetoric is the Real Catastrophe

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

You didn't get it, but I'm sure someone on here did or will....eventually.

I got it but you should spell it out as to not be passive aggressive.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

The Pied Piper talked about assholes and horses asses????

Yes, the mice followed him. Or the children? Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, too.

I do know that St. Patrick drove the snakes out of Ireland, does that help?

I believed this on a literal level much longer than I should have. I assumed they didn't have snakes in Ireland, until one of my college friends said, "don't you think that was allegorical about driving out Paganism?" Nope, it had never crossed my mind.

[DaemonSeid]

pot meet kettle

fun times.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

pot meet kettle

fun times.

This is racist - black kettle? Dehumanized much? Come on, like we can't all see right through this.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

This is racist - black kettle? Dehumanized much? Come on, like we can't all see right through this.

Wooooooooooooooow...that was indeed lame...LOL

Damn...that made me laugh so hard, seriously man...not all kettles are black...but it says something about your mindset that THE FIRST thing that popped in your mind was a BLACK kettle.

Oh....

Wait...


That was YOUR POV.


Your kneejerk reaction to what was said.

Damn..I don't have an Infinite Internet Theory Hypothesis Proposal to cover that.

Hmmm...It's racist.


Thanks!

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Wooooooooooooooow...that was indeed lame...LOL

I make no claims to comedic genius, guy - although clearly I was kidding.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Damn...that made me laugh so hard, seriously man...not all kettles are black...but it says something about your mindset that THE FIRST thing that popped in your mind was a BLACK kettle.

Erm, the maxim is "that's like the pot calling the kettle black." That's the reference, always and forever.

So . . . yeah. Maybe you should sit a few plays out?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I make no claims to comedic genius, guy - although clearly I was kidding.

so was I...I was seriously laughing...slide over and watch for splinters!

[agzg]

I guess back on topic before this became a discussion of race and the "you're stupid," "no you're stupid":

I would be surprised if there wasn't a little bit of fear mongering on the part of Obama and Democrats in Congress in regard to the economy for a couple of reasons.

1. Republicans harp on the national security issues. Democrats harp on economic issues. This is nothing new.
2. We (as Americans) showed that we responded to negative or scary language. It got Bush a second term, and it got us into Iraq, if you buy that argument (I don't buy it wholeheartedly).

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

It got Bush a second term, and it got us into Iraq, if you buy that argument (I don't buy it wholeheartedly).

I would disagree with that argument, at least in part because I think a big boost to Bush's second term was the inability of the Democrats to field a viable candidate. Kerry was a complete disaster, and if the Democrats had found someone better I think it would have been a much closer and tougher race.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I would disagree with that argument, at least in part because I think a big boost to Bush's second term was the inability of the Democrats to field a viable candidate. Kerry was a complete disaster, and if the Democrats had found someone better I think it would have been a much closer and tougher race.

Agreed.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I would disagree with that argument, at least in part because I think a big boost to Bush's second term was the inability of the Democrats to field a viable candidate. Kerry was a complete disaster, and if the Democrats had found someone better I think it would have been a much closer and tougher race.

True. I don't buy it either. But my point is that perception is what rules the day. Yeah, democrats knew that Kerry wasn't a super strong candidate. But they weren't going to open themselves wider to criticism about choosing a weak candidate unless they opened republicans up with the "They cried wolf" argument. It seems that perhaps some of Obama's speech writers, and maybe Obama himself, believes that the fear mongering was what really won Bush his second term. If it worked then, why wouldn't it now?

Plus I don't think members of Congress are particularly invulnerable to fear mongering, either.

[UGAalum94]

Other than fear of complete catastrophe, what would have motivated people to favor this kind of spending, especially all at once?

I think selling it as fending off catastrophe is the only effective sell for the majority of Americans.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I think selling it as fending off catastrophe is the only effective sell for the majority of Americans.

Definitely and that's not just Americans. However, the socioeconomic breakdown of America and the undereducation of the working class is even more conducive to fear mongering.

Humans respond to extremes and fear. It is even worse when there is misinformation, withholding information, and a general refusal to inform yourself when you have access to the info.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

But my point is that perception is what rules the day.

That's the message to get from every single page of this thread.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I would disagree with that argument, at least in part because I think a big boost to Bush's second term was the inability of the Democrats to field a viable candidate. Kerry was a complete disaster, and if the Democrats had found someone better I think it would have been a much closer and tougher race.

It's interesting to think that this last time around they managed to find two more compelling, I think, than Kerry.

Are you still loving Jindal for the Republicans next time around? What do you think about his suggesting he might decline some of the money on behalf of Louisiana?