how do sororities decide?

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by Zillini

This scenario isn't new. Every PNM is going to have favorites and there may be a chapter or 2 were they know they would not be happy at. Fair or not, right or wrong, their reasonings may be based on knowing numerous members, gossip, gut feelings, who knows.

I'm sure we all agree that it is not fair for a chapter to string along a PNM with party invitations knowing they will cut her before Pref. One of the primary reasons RFM was created was to cut/eliminate this. But the same thing applies to a PNM who strings a chapter along with no intention of accepting a Pref invite or bid. Don't accept their early round invitations just to have a full party schedule. It's not fair to that chapter who gave an uninterested PNM one of their limited number of invites/bids. It's not fair to the other PNMs who would have gladly accepted that invite/bid, but never got the chance.

Zillini, I'm confused, as usual. Maybe I'm just not aware of a change ... but I thoought that at most / all fully structured formal recruitments, a PNM could NOT decline an invite IF she needed that invite to make a "max possible" number of parties for a particular round. Depending on how many invites someone got, she might not be able to decline any, even ones she wanted to. Am I really wrong?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by exlurker

Zillini, I'm confused, as usual. Maybe I'm just not aware of a change ... but I thoought that at most / all fully structured formal recruitments, a PNM could NOT decline an invite IF she needed that invite to make a "max possible" number of parties for a particular round. Depending on how many invites someone got, she might not be able to decline any, even ones she wanted to. Am I really wrong?

You are correct. It wouldn't make a difference anyway. The chapters get to release a certain number. The PNMs release after they receive invitations. No additional girls get to be invited if no one wants to accept their invites to a particular chapter. The point of having the PNMs keep going back is that even if they think they aren't interested at first, they may have no other options as the process advances.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by exlurker

Zillini, I'm confused, as usual. Maybe I'm just not aware of a change ... but I thoought that at most / all fully structured formal recruitments, a PNM could NOT decline an invite IF she needed that invite to make a "max possible" number of parties for a particular round. Depending on how many invites someone got, she might not be able to decline any, even ones she wanted to. Am I really wrong?

My apologies. I admit I am not used to the new (at least for this campus) preferential ranking system. Now PNMs group/rank the chapters they attended for a round, then sororities submit their invitation lists. After a little computer magic, PNMs simply receive a party schedule for the next round.

My earlier response came out of habit from spending so many years with the accept/regret system. A PNM was not forced to accept the max invitations, although not maximizing her options risked not receiving a guaranteed bid. There were PNMs who were willing to take this risk because they knew without a shadow of a doubt that they would not accept a bid from XYZ.

I understand the logic behind RFM and the preferential ranking. The goal is that if a PNM gives XYZ a chance by spending more time with them, then maybe she will realize that this is a sisterhood where she could be happy. That is a wonderful idea in theory, but let's be honest things don't always work that way. There will always be PNMs who won't change their minds no matter how much time they spend with a chapter.

I personally think it is unfair for those chapters who are in essence being strung along hoping to change minds. On top of that, these chapters are typically the smallest and therefore are being forced to spend a lot of resources (both in sister power and money) recruiting women who will not accept a bid from them. Is it really helpful to these small chapters to make them recruit with 1 active to 3 or 4 PNMs when there is no chance of "getting" 2 or even 3 of them? Wouldn't it be better to have a 1:1 or 1:2 recruiter to PNM ratio with those they truly have a chance at?

Just my thoughts.

[KSUViolet06]

I always feel like a PNM has every right in the world to decline bids/pref invites/ whatever.

However, my opinions is that you kind of forfeit your right to complain about the system/the process when you do so.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I always feel like a PNM has every right in the world to decline bids/pref invites/ whatever.

However, my opinions is that you kind of forfeit your right to complain about the system/the process when you do so.

I agree. However it is worth pointing out that the OP did not complain, she simply asked a common question - how we decide.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

I agree. However it is worth pointing out that the OP did not complain, she simply asked a common question - how we decide.

Right.

Which reminds me, why is this thread still going?

I think it has been said like 343254545 times that we don't discuss that here.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Why is this thread still open?

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

Why is this thread still open? The OP asked a question, got an answer, and got some great advice to boot.

It's time to move on.

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Right.

Which reminds me, why is this thread still going?

I think it has been said like 343254545 times that we don't discuss that here.

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