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Old 01-07-2009, 12:50 PM
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Says who she or anyone else has to defend their ideas or opinions on Greekchat.com? You dont have to agree with one's ideas or opinions. They have the right to those ideas or opinions. You can respectfully agree to disagree with them.
They have a right to have those opinions.

That doesn't mean those opinions are right - no one has to defend their opinions, but if their opinions are poorly formed, based on something other than logic (like, oh, prejudice or fear or hate or ignorance), or otherwise wrong (both in the sense of "incorrect" and "not right"), there's no reason not to challenge those opinions.

You can choose whether or not to defend your thoughts/opinions/beliefs, but it's actually quite immature to say "But it's MY OPINION! I have a right to an OPINION!" as some sort of absolute defense to others questioning you. That's not how it works, and the faster we can disavow ourselves of this myth, the better discussion and communication will become.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:53 PM
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They have a right to have those opinions.

That doesn't mean those opinions are right - no one has to defend their opinions, but if their opinions are poorly formed, based on something other than logic (like, oh, prejudice or fear or hate or ignorance), or otherwise wrong (both in the sense of "incorrect" and "not right"), there's no reason not to challenge those opinions.

You can choose whether or not to defend your thoughts/opinions/beliefs, but it's actually quite immature to say "But it's MY OPINION! I have a right to an OPINION!" as some sort of absolute defense to others questioning you. That's not how it works, and the faster we can disavow ourselves of this myth, the better discussion and communication will become.
This post should be stickied somewhere by itself.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:01 PM
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They have a right to have those opinions.

That doesn't mean those opinions are right - no one has to defend their opinions, but if their opinions are poorly formed, based on something other than logic (like, oh, prejudice or fear or hate or ignorance), or otherwise wrong (both in the sense of "incorrect" and "not right"), there's no reason not to challenge those opinions.

You can choose whether or not to defend your thoughts/opinions/beliefs, but it's actually quite immature to say "But it's MY OPINION! I have a right to an OPINION!" as some sort of absolute defense to others questioning you. That's not how it works, and the faster we can disavow ourselves of this myth, the better discussion and communication will become.
Agreed 100%. Somehow the idea has developed on this site that a person has a right to state their opinions, but those who disagree have no right to do so. Where that came from, I don't know.

If you're going to air your opinions in public, and, specifically, if you're going to announce your opinions on controversial subjects, you have to expect that there will be someone who will disagree with you. If you can't accept that, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:56 PM
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We know because some of them have been arrested, including the owner of a very popular and high profile local restaurant chain who even had a relative working for the government (some of whom have been arrested and some of whom have left the country). It is a fact that there are terror cells within 10 minutes of where PM_Mama lives.

Air Tran has assigned seating, unlike SouthWest.
Thanks for clarifying (on both). I didn't know that was case, and I probably would be a little more aware of the people around me.

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A lot of people have been deeply affected by 9/11 and are much more nervous about getting on a plane. Have you seriously never been uncomfortable with a stranger on an elevator because they gave you a bad vibe? When we had the big blackout of 2003, the first thing people thought was "terrorism". Before 9/11, we would have assumed "mechanical failure". We are in a different reality than we were on 9/10/01.
Nope I haven't. Just like I don't get nervous about the people on the plane around me. I DO get scared thinking the plane is going to malfunction & crash, but not that anyone is gonna hijack the plane.

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eta: I get Palestine and Pakistan mixed up all the time. He may be from Palestine. I need to ask her.
The ONLY way her father could be Pakistani and Arab is if he was 1/2 & 1/2 (1/2 pakistani, 1/2 Arab). Pakistani people are NOT Arabs. If he is Arab, then you are probably right that's he's Palestinian.

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Hmm. You don't think recent Israeli activities in Palestine would have anything to do with their sentiment, huh? Could you tell whether or not they were Palestinian?
Yeah I mentioned that to TP the first time she talked about it, and she didn't care. She said it didn't matter whether they were "Palestinian or Arab." But actually it does matter, because of the Palestinian sentiment towards Israel.
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Old 01-07-2009, 02:09 PM
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The ONLY way her father could be Pakistani and Arab is if he was 1/2 & 1/2 (1/2 pakistani, 1/2 Arab). Pakistani people are NOT Arabs. If he is Arab, then you are probably right that's he's Palestinian.
Unless he is Arab and lived in Pakistan. I need to talk to her about it cuz now I'm confused. I do know that wherever it is out there, he married a woman from there (friend's step-mother) and she visits often and doesn't speak much English.

The red bandana thing... I shouldn't have said bandana. It was the red strip of fabric thing that they tyed around their head before taking over. It could have a real name, not sure.
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Old 01-07-2009, 02:45 PM
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The red bandana thing... I shouldn't have said bandana. It was the red strip of fabric thing that they tyed around their head before taking over. It could have a real name, not sure.
Does it look more like this (a Keyyifeh):



or

this (sometimes called a Shemagh or a ghutra an iqal):

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Old 01-07-2009, 03:54 PM
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Heyyyyyy Mister Keyyifeh man..... what's your sign?
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