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Old 01-06-2009, 02:55 PM
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:47 PM
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I do too. Because why is it necessary to wear a shirt, in Arabic that many people cannot understand, that says "We will not be silent". Who is "we" and why won't you "be silent"? What is the silence about? That shit just makes people nervous and I'm sorry, call me racist but if I was at an airport and saw someone, whatever they look like Arab or not, wearing this shirt I'd be nervous.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:58 PM
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I do too. Because why is it necessary to wear a shirt, in Arabic that many people cannot understand, that says "We will not be silent". Who is "we" and why won't you "be silent"? What is the silence about? That shit just makes people nervous and I'm sorry, call me racist but if I was at an airport and saw someone, whatever they look like Arab or not, wearing this shirt I'd be nervous.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:27 PM
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I do too. Because why is it necessary to wear a shirt, in Arabic that many people cannot understand, that says "We will not be silent". Who is "we" and why won't you "be silent"? What is the silence about? That shit just makes people nervous and I'm sorry, call me racist but if I was at an airport and saw someone, whatever they look like Arab or not, wearing this shirt I'd be nervous.
The shirt was obviously not meant for you to understand. "We will not be silent" I assume refers to arabs (american and non-american) who won't remain silent, hide or avoid the spotlight so that we (non-arabs) won't feel nervous. He has a right to wear any shirt he wants as long as it doesn't say, "I have a bomb, and I'm going to blow up this airplane!" Unfortunately, the acts of a few extremists has made it okay to discriminate against everyone that speaks arabic. I wish the guy had been awarded more so that people would actually think twice about this issue!
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:10 PM
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The shirt was obviously not meant for you to understand. "We will not be silent" I assume refers to arabs (american and non-american) who won't remain silent, hide or avoid the spotlight so that we (non-arabs) won't feel nervous. He has a right to wear any shirt he wants as long as it doesn't say, "I have a bomb, and I'm going to blow up this airplane!" Unfortunately, the acts of a few extremists has made it okay to discriminate against everyone that speaks arabic. I wish the guy had been awarded more so that people would actually think twice about this issue!
How would you know what it said? This guy was looking for attention.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:27 PM
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How would you know what it said? This guy was looking for attention.
SO ARREST HIM OR KICK HIM OUT OF THE AIRPORT OR WHATEVER!
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:41 PM
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SO ARREST HIM OR KICK HIM OUT OF THE AIRPORT OR WHATEVER!
I don't agree with that.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:42 PM
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How would you know what it said? This guy was looking for attention.
Just because a man has arabic writing on his shirt does not make him suspicious. The saying was not meant for me or you or anyone who doesn't speak or read arabic. I wouldn't know what it said, and it doesn't matter. He can wear anything he wants on a plane. Would you feel the same if the writing was in yiddish, chinese, japanese, spanish, etc?
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:52 PM
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Just because a man has arabic writing on his shirt does not make him suspicious. The saying was not meant for me or you or anyone who doesn't speak or read arabic. I wouldn't know what it said, and it doesn't matter. He can wear anything he wants on a plane. Would you feel the same if the writing was in yiddish, chinese, japanese, spanish, etc?
If it was Spanish I wouldn't feel the same cuz I could read it. And last time I checked it's been a while since a Chinese or Japanese person killed thousands of people using airplanes.

I am around Arabs every day. I went to school in Dearborn for gosh sakes... the most Arab populated city in the country. I've never once felt threatened by any of them. But someone, from a religious background the same as monsters who devastated so many lives, doing something in an airport that is obviously for attention, makes me nervous.

My mixed feelings come from the way he was treated. Yes I think he did it for attention. No I don't think he should have been treated the way he was. I love having freedom of speech but I think sometimes people take it too far.

Out of curiosity, how would you feel if he was wearing one of those red bandana things around his head like the terrorists put on right before they took the planes over? Would that make you nervous or would you feel like "I don't wana racially profile".
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:02 PM
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If it was Spanish I wouldn't feel the same cuz I could read it. And last time I checked it's been a while since a Chinese or Japanese person killed thousands of people using airplanes.

I am around Arabs every day. I went to school in Dearborn for gosh sakes... the most Arab populated city in the country. I've never once felt threatened by any of them. But someone, from a religious background the same as monsters who devastated so many lives, doing something in an airport that is obviously for attention, makes me nervous.

My mixed feelings come from the way he was treated. Yes I think he did it for attention. No I don't think he should have been treated the way he was. I love having freedom of speech but I think sometimes people take it too far.

Out of curiosity, how would you feel if he was wearing one of those red bandana things around his head like the terrorists put on right before they took the planes over? Would that make you nervous or would you feel like "I don't wana racially profile".
It actually wouldn't bother me at all. Did the terrorists wear shirts with arabic writing emblazoned on the front on the flights on 9/11? No, so it's like apples and oranges. This is no different than crossing the road to get away from young black men because you know that some young black men have mugged people in the past. At some point,you have to accept that you can't go around expecting all people different from you to be evil.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:03 PM
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If it was Spanish I wouldn't feel the same cuz I could read it. And last time I checked it's been a while since a Chinese or Japanese person killed thousands of people using airplanes.

I am around Arabs every day. I went to school in Dearborn for gosh sakes... the most Arab populated city in the country. I've never once felt threatened by any of them. But someone, from a religious background the same as monsters who devastated so many lives, doing something in an airport that is obviously for attention, makes me nervous.

My mixed feelings come from the way he was treated. Yes I think he did it for attention. No I don't think he should have been treated the way he was. I love having freedom of speech but I think sometimes people take it too far.

Out of curiosity, how would you feel if he was wearing one of those red bandana things around his head like the terrorists put on right before they took the planes over? Would that make you nervous or would you feel like "I don't wana racially profile".
Your first sentence is what caught my eye. If you could read it...well if you could you'd feel safe. You have fear, which can be a healthy and natural thing, but I think it is misdirected here. It is okay to be scared in life, but it isn't okay to be irrational in the process. There were sarin gas attacks in Japanese subways that were considered a terrorist attack, and some people believe the actions of the Chinese toward Tibetans are terrorist acts as well; however you cannot ethcially and in good conscience associate anything Arabic with terrorism. If you went to school in Dearborn, and I know there are lots of Middle Eastern people and practicing Muslims in your community, you have to know some good people.

There are people in my church (locally, nationally, world wide) who are Middle Eastern and speak Arabic, not everyone is an Islamic extremist with fatwas and a jihad, I wish you could see that and let the hate and fear out of your heart, it makes me sad.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:22 AM
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If it was Spanish I wouldn't feel the same cuz I could read it. And last time I checked it's been a while since a Chinese or Japanese person killed thousands of people using airplanes.
White people killed thousands of American Indians, clearly they should be scared of me wearing a shirt that has English writing into a reservation.

Your ancestors fucking WORKED WITH THE NAZIS. This is such an inane argument I can't believe we're having it.

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I am around Arabs every day. I went to school in Dearborn for gosh sakes... the most Arab populated city in the country. I've never once felt threatened by any of them.
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ut someone, from a religious background the same as monsters who devastated so many lives, doing something in an airport that is obviously for attention, makes me nervous.
If they're doing it for ATTENTION they are clearly not concerned with BLOWING UP PLANES. Remember how attackers keep a low profile, lest they be caught?

Do you see how illogical you're being here?
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:49 PM
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I am around Arabs every day. I went to school in Dearborn for gosh sakes... the most Arab populated city in the country. I've never once felt threatened by any of them.
i'm not racist, my best friend's middle eastern. i even had one in my house a few years ago.
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Just because a man has arabic writing on his shirt does not make him suspicious. The saying was not meant for me or you or anyone who doesn't speak or read arabic. I wouldn't know what it said, and it doesn't matter. He can wear anything he wants on a plane. Would you feel the same if the writing was in yiddish, chinese, japanese, spanish, etc?
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I guess if someone has on any shirt like this or similar, we need to arrest them all huh, PM?
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... At some point,you have to accept that you can't go around expecting all people different from you to be evil.
Reread my post. I don't think that all people different than me are evil.

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I guess if someone has on any shirt like this or similar, we need to arrest them all huh, PM?
Those have absolutely nothing to do with my post.
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