oh DAYUM!!! Bush almost got clocked by a SHOE

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Throwing a shoe, for me, is not assault. It seems more like he was trying to put the lowest cultural shame on him that he could. I totally got it and died laughing. He didn't get hit and even if he did, he would have at worst just had a knot in the head.

Maybe if he had been used to having shoes flung at him in his youth (particularly toward his backside, as many people I know have experienced) he would have been a better president? Juss sayin'...

[AKA_Monet]

Think if was a woman who wears 3" heels, like a boomerang...

No, dude should have not thrown shoes at the US president, regardless how we think about the current POTUS.

My question has not been answered, first of all, why was he in Iraq to have shoes thrown at him--making shoes be a terrorist action... Especially fools with size 10 feet or above... They are liable to throwing shoes at our Presidents... Like a suicide shoe thrower-bomber... LOL...

Then secondly, some else ask, WHERE THE [expletive deleted] was the POTUS detail--EFF that I pay taxes for this President to be protected. I do not want to celebrate any holiday in remembrance of this person. Really. And I am sorry, I am not interested in reading President Bush's pop-up book with kiddie mazes, word finds, and connect the dots. No really...

I don't care, the POTUS detail should have check for people shoes being off in order to be thrown. This ain't the Springer show, dammit!!! Isn't that what the SS does when shoes are thrown at people? If that is a well known concept in the Islamic culture, then what's up with the POTUS detail? REALLY!!!

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Maybe if he had been used to having shoes flung at him in his youth (particularly toward his backside, as many people I know have experienced) he would have been a better president? Juss sayin'...

Ironic, since most people who think hes a terrible president feel the same way about his father.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

If people think you're a shitty poster, should they throw shit at you?

They already do...nothing new about that.

PhiGam has already busted a gasket.

I am sure he is burning my effigy even now.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Ironic, since most people who think hes a terrible president feel the same way about his father.

Actually, I think his father was cool.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Think if was a woman who wears 3" heels, like a boomerang...

No, dude should have not thrown shoes at the US president, regardless how we think about the current POTUS.

My question has not been answered, first of all, why was he in Iraq to have shoes thrown at him--making shoes be a terrorist action... Especially fools with size 10 feet or above... They are liable to throwing shoes at our Presidents... Like a suicide shoe thrower-bomber... LOL...

Then secondly, some else ask, WHERE THE [expletive deleted] was the POTUS detail--EFF that I pay taxes for this President to be protected. I do not want to celebrate any holiday in remembrance of this person. Really. And I am sorry, I am not interested in reading President Bush's pop-up book with kiddie mazes, word finds, and connect the dots. No really...

I don't care, the POTUS detail should have check for people shoes being off in order to be thrown. This ain't the Springer show, dammit!!! Isn't that what the SS does when shoes are thrown at people? If that is a well known concept in the Islamic culture, then what's up with the POTUS detail? REALLY!!!

Hey watch it now...The thought police will be here soon to tell you not to say such filth flarin' filth about 'our' president!!!

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Hey watch it now...The thought police will be here soon to tell you not to say such filth flarin' filth about 'our' president!!!

Always fun talking politics with you DS. You say your peace and then get fired up and mock anyone who dares disagree with you.

It's a shame, because you're one of the smarter posters on here, and you make some great points in a lot of threads.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Always fun talking politics with you DS. You say your peace and then get fired up and mock anyone who dares disagree with you.

It's a shame, because you're one of the smarter posters on here, and you make some great points in a lot of threads.

believe me, I am not fired up.

I'm not even rattled.

Actually I am surprised that so many of you here are stunned that there are people who aren't all that pressed about what happened to Bush.

And me mocking PhiGam?

All in a day's work.

I think he loves the abuse, which is why he keeps trying his best to dish it out.

Just say a few sentences and he devolves instantly to name calling.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Actually I am surprised that so many of you here are stunned that there are people who aren't all that pressed about what happened to Bush.

I believe your perception may be off.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Hey watch it now...The thought police will be here soon to tell you not to say such filth flarin' filth about 'our' president!!!

I don't give a [BLEEPIN' BLEEP]!!! [BLEEP] them!!! [BLEEP], [BLEEP], [BLEEP] Mother [BLEEP] them!!!

I'm gonna tell you like my crazy uncle told the IRS:

I am 70-something years old. Ill... Unemployed, broke and have inoperable cancer... If the government wants to show up and put me in prison, and have the taxpayers pay for $80,000 for cancer treatment to take care of me, then come on, I would be more than happy to comply...

The IRS never called again...

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I believe your perception may be off.

AH well wouldn't be the first time... but if the shoe fits...heh!

But I guarantee you it's not off by much!

AKA Monet...did I tell u that you are my hero?

HA!HA!

[epchick]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Then secondly, some else ask, WHERE THE [expletive deleted] was the POTUS detail--EFF that I pay taxes for this President to be protected.

I don't care, the POTUS detail should have check for people shoes being off in order to be thrown. This ain't the Springer show, dammit!!! Isn't that what the SS does when shoes are thrown at people? If that is a well known concept in the Islamic culture, then what's up with the POTUS detail? REALLY!!!

Just because it is considered offensive, doesn't mean that the SS should have everyone take off their shoes. All those journalists were searched several times---and they all didn't know that President Bush was going to be at the conference.

The SS was there but I serioulsy doubt they would have EVER thought shoes would have been thrown at the POTUS. In fact, a couple SS men went up to protect Pres Bush & he waved them off.


Here is an article about the lack of SS:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/3124049

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by epchick

Just because it is considered offensive, doesn't mean that the SS should have everyone take off their shoes. All those journalists were searched several times---and they all didn't know that President Bush was going to be at the conference.

The SS was there but I serioulsy doubt they would have EVER thought shoes would have been thrown at the POTUS. In fact, a couple SS men went up to protect Pres Bush & he waved them off.


Here is an article about the lack of SS:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/3124049

The SS job is part of the protocol, customs and culture of the area as directed by the President. They advise him of the appropriateness of SOME duties he upholds.

Sure, they may have not know that anyone would hurl shoes at the US president. But they should have know that doing so is of great insult as seen in Arab-culture. That is why some credentials are checked.

Now, we are not talking about a country with decades old fully functional, established constitution with branches of government... We are talking about a very unstable questionable government that is supported by the United States at this time. If we are supporting it, then, the Detail and anyone else deemed essential would want to be looking at EVERYBODY'S credentials and possible "plant" who they wanted there and refused letting anyone else in there just for the photo op. Yeah, I said it. Our US government does that...

That is the job of the SECRET Service and any other intelligence agency of the USA. I know folks who do work for these agencies and let's just say, some stuff is well within their control...

This incident, should have been. To play stupid means someone failed somewhere. That fool needs to lose their job because of this... Or they aren't in charge of checking plants in meetings with the POTUS, etc...

Cuz if he let that looney tune into this meeting hurling shoes at our Leader, who else is he letting in?

That's like me asking for $50 dollars worth of circus tickets... LOL...

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

believe me, I am not fired up.

I'm not even rattled.

Actually I am surprised that so many of you here are stunned that there are people who aren't all that pressed about what happened to Bush.

And me mocking PhiGam?

All in a day's work.

I think he loves the abuse, which is why he keeps trying his best to dish it out.

Just say a few sentences and he devolves instantly to name calling.

This may be your weirdest post yet.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

This may be your weirdest post yet.

You haven't learned yet have you? The smartest thing for you to do to keep from being in these 'wierd' debates with me may be for you to NOT respond to me, right? Try it one day.

Me? Some days I simply enjoy rattling your cage.

(Hint: Calling folks retarded or FUCKED UP as you put it because their emotions don't match yours or telling someone exactly how pissed off you are at thier opinions just makes it even easier and might be a sign that you have too much vested in a conversation over some shyte that really doesn't affect you and thus may be a sign for you to exit.)

Moving right along....the shoe thrower may ONLY get 2 years in jail...imagine that...the ULTIMATE insult gets nominal jail time...


BAGHDAD – The journalist who threw his shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush was handed over to the Iraqi military, an Iraqi official said, as hundreds took to the streets Tuesday for a second day demanding his release.

Muntadhar al-Zeidi was turned over by the prime minister's security guards to face further investigation by the military command in charge of enforcing security in Baghdad, the official told The Associated Press.

Al-Zeidi was initially taken into custody by Iraqi security and interrogated about whether anybody had paid him to throw his shoes at Bush during a news conference Sunday in Baghdad, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

He could face charges of insulting a foreign leader and the Iraqi prime minister, who was standing next to Bush. The offense carries a maximum penalty of two years in jail.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081216/..._mi_ea/ml_iraq

Next Pres that travels to the middle east...press conferences will be held with members of the news corp butt naked....

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Its like that old adage about how I can bitch and moan all I want about my family but don't you dare say something against them because they're MY family.

I meant to get back to you on this point yesterday.

While I agree with you in theory, I disagree with the principle in real life situations as sometimes (not all) it sets a dangerous precedent in turning a blind eye towards things. It's almost akin to hearing a mother scream 'NOT MY CHILD, HE IS AN INNOCENT BOY' after he has killed 10 people in cold blood because mama turned a blind eye to his illegal activites all these year as it was going on in plain sight.

Now...Bush may be the US representing us, he may be our leader...but when you are talking about family as you state in the adage, then, (at least what I would do at any rate) let's ask George... "What did you do to piss those people off that they are throwing shoes at you?" "Why do they hate you so much?"

I don't believe in letting family off the hook that much especially when you know and see that they are wrong.

Sometimes the best that you can do for fams is to let them hang for a while and hope they learn the lesson.

We plainly heard from George himself that initially he didn't think it was a big deal and that he was too ignorant to realize exactly what kind of insult was literally hurled at him.

Now hopefully having it explained to him he understands.

Now maybe after knowing that so many citizens disagree with this war and the waste of lives and money it has produced and the unrest that it has caused, and that MANY of them wants the US to leave them the hell alone, why some of us see that shoe as a wake up call.

And I agree with AKA Monet...why the hell was he there in the first place? Why was our president in the middle of a warzone (not literally before some of you take it there!) where someone could have just as easily have shot him as opposed to simply throwing a shoe in the first place?

If you purposefully put yourself in harm's way, then yes, something is bound to happen!

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

And I agree with AKA Monet...

See, that's where you fucked up.