Auto Execs Fly Corporate Jets to D.C., Tin Cups in Hand

[Kevin]

der tekkin are jawbs?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Kevin

der tekkin are jawbs?

But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles. My husband, on the other hand, had a Ford and now a Pontiac. It's a house divided.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles. My husband, on the other hand, had a Ford and now a Pontiac. It's a house divided.

Yep. I was thinking that when driving around today in my father's Denali. It's got 85K miles on it, has been immaculately maintained, they bought it new, and it's already having engine trouble.

My wife and I both have Hondas. We've been together now for gosh.. 6-7 years or so? Between the two of us, I think we've had my car in the shop once when the motor on one of my power windows gave out.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Kevin

My wife and I both have Hondas.

I'm sorry...

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I'm sorry...

Don't be. I'm in law school. My priorities right now do not include having a luxury car. My car gets decent mileage, it's extremely reliable, it's paid for, and actually pretty comfortable.

Actually, to my mind, on the list of 'stuff worth spending lots of cash on,' a luxury car is pretty far down the list.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Don't be. I'm in law school. My priorities right now do not include having a luxury car. My car gets decent mileage, it's extremely reliable, it's paid for, and actually pretty comfortable.

Actually, to my mind, on the list of 'stuff worth spending lots of cash on,' a luxury car is pretty far down the list.

Screw that priority noise; you want to be a lawyer? Start acting like one. $560 a month with $4500 down is the way to go!

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles.

Why? I currently have a german auto but I would buy a Detroit car if it was actually NICE. Like comparable to a BMW or an Audi in the sense of style, use of premium materials and overall drive of the beast. The new 2010 Mustang looks promising...

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Why? I currently have a german auto but I would buy a Detroit car if it was actually NICE. Like comparable to a BMW or an Audi in the sense of style, use of premium materials and overall drive of the beast. The new 2010 Mustang looks promising...

My brother had a BMW and I thought it was the ugliest thing ever. I thought my Ford Edge was nicer than that. Sure it had the power to go like 0-100 real quick but who needs that unless you plan on racing it? I don't think Mercedes are nice either. I think a Cadilac or even a Lexus (preferably the RX) are way nicer.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

My brother had a BMW and I thought it was the ugliest thing ever. I thought my Ford Edge was nicer than that. Sure it had the power to go like 0-100 real quick but who needs that unless you plan on racing it? I don't think Mercedes are nice either. I think a Cadilac or even a Lexus (preferably the RX) are way nicer.

Cadillac's are nice if you're in your 60's, and at the end of the day a Lexus is nothing but a ricer in a sharp suit. The Edge is one of the nicest things FoMoCo has put out in the last decade for sure, but lets not be unrealistic in our comparisons.

[PeppyGPhiB]

First: Honda builds most of its American-sold cars in the U.S. now. The Japanese aren't taking as many American jobs as you think - the jobs are just moving to Alabama and other places where Honda, Toyota and such have factories.

Second: I actually find my Honda perfectly sized and comfortable for me, compared to American cars with seatbelts that cut me at the neck, have gas pedals so far out of reach that I have to sit an unsafe (short) distance from the air bag, and have awkward seat pitches. But the real reason why I love my Honda is that it has 102,000 miles on it now and it has only been in the shop ONCE for a repair, and that was to replace the catalytic converter which the dealership decided to cover under warranty! I have never doubted my car's reliability, and I know it was a great investment. I'm not going to spend more for an American car and get less reliability and more pains in the butt; I don't have the money to replace dash boards or seats or engines every 50-75k miles. My boyfriend, who drives a Ford Mustang and can't wait to get rid of it, marvels at the way my Civic is constructed under the hood - unlike his car where everything is hidden and unreachable to someone wanting to do simple things like change out the spark plugs, Honda smartly put everything within reach. Not only does his car have constant problems, he can't fix any of them despite his knowledge of cars - when he takes his car in to the mechanic, it's an easy $300-$500 for simple fixes. And even though he's a former Ford intern and U. of Michigan grad, this is the last American car for him. The poor quality of American cars - then or now - was enough to turn off generations of U.S. consumers, most of which feel that a car is too big of a purchase to be left up to chance.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Like comparable to a BMW or an Audi in the sense of style, use of premium materials and overall drive of the beast.

I looooooooove Audis!!

Originally Posted by KSigkid

My parents are big on American autos, but I've never had much luck. My wife and I both have foreign autos, and we haven't had a problem. Plus, the safety features on our previous foreign auto essentially saved our life when we were hit by a drunk driver, so we're pretty loyal.

I'm loyal to Honda because a Honda Civic HB saved my life in a similar situation as yours.

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

First: Honda builds most of its American-sold cars in the U.S. now. The Japanese aren't taking as many American jobs as you think - the jobs are just moving to Alabama and other places where Honda, Toyota and such have factories.

That's kinda what I thought. If more factories opened, wouldn't we have jobs for the trained American autoworkers that are unemployed?

The poor quality of American cars - then or now - was enough to turn off generations of U.S. consumers, most of which feel that a car is too big of a purchase to be left up to chance.

Precisely

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Cadillac's are nice if you're in your 60's, and at the end of the day a Lexus is nothing but a ricer in a sharp suit. The Edge is one of the nicest things FoMoCo has put out in the last decade for sure, but lets not be unrealistic in our comparisons.

This is true but have you seen that two seater convertible Caddy? It's hot!

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

But their products are awesome! I will never willingly purchase an American made car for myself unless my choices are so severely limited that it's "do or die." I only buy Japanese vehicles. My husband, on the other hand, had a Ford and now a Pontiac. It's a house divided.

My parents are big on American autos, but I've never had much luck. My wife and I both have foreign autos, and we haven't had a problem. Plus, the safety features on our previous foreign auto essentially saved our life when we were hit by a drunk driver, so we're pretty loyal.