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12-15-2008, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KSigkid
So are people just not allowed to disagree with you?
It's funny too - of the people who have disagreed with you, at least three (myself, preciousjeni and Sen) have stated in previous threads that we're not fans of the Bush presidency. So, that "some of you are made just because a few of us are not ashamed to show our disregard..." statement has little to no relevance to our feelings.
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If you disagree...cool.
We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.
A few gems from he and co. :
" I don't understand where condoning assault on anyone, let alone a public official, makes any sense."
"And for those of you who said you wouldn't be upset if he died... you're retarded. "
"I agree completely. People who think this is funny are, IMO, way out of line."
"You certainly don't have to "feel sorry" for Bush but to say that you wouldn't be saddened if he died is FUCKED UP, "
NO!
It's called practicing my 1st Amendment right!
All I am doing is talking about it!
Jeni hit it on the head when she disagreed that all world leaders deserve respect.
If you don't like them...you don't like them.
And you sure as hell can't force someone to feel sorry for them if something happens.
Hell, if anyone is retarded it would be following along with the crowd in either aspect when you know deep down you feel differently!
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12-15-2008, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
If you disagree...cool.
We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.
You pissed me off because you stated your indifference towards the DEATH of the President for no other reason then because he disagrees with you politically.
A few gems from he and co. :
" I don't understand where condoning assault on anyone, let alone a public official, makes any sense."
"And for those of you who said you wouldn't be upset if he died... you're retarded. "
"I agree completely. People who think this is funny are, IMO, way out of line."
"You certainly don't have to "feel sorry" for Bush but to say that you wouldn't be saddened if he died is FUCKED UP, "
NO!
It's called practicing my 1st Amendment right!
And nobody is trying to arrest you for it. The first amendment protects from the government suppressing your free speech, not from people calling you out for saying STUPID, CLASSLESS things.
All I am doing is talking about it!
Thats all that anyone is doing on here?
Jeni hit it on the head when she disagreed that all world leaders deserve respect.
If you don't like them...you don't like them.
And you sure as hell can't force someone to feel sorry for them if something happens.
Hell, if anyone is retarded it would be following along with the crowd in either aspect when you know deep down you feel differently!
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12-15-2008, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
You pissed me off because you stated your indifference towards the DEATH of the President for no other reason then because he disagrees with you politically.
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Oh boo hoo...you want a hanky for it?
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Originally Posted by SydneyK
You can hate the man, but you should respect the office. It's a shame that our President is so disliked. But it shouldn't be acceptable for any American to support an assault on our President. Like KSigkid said, there are several posters in this thread who don't much care for Bush (myself included). The problem as I see it isn't that people have differing opinions regarding whether or not they like Bush, it's the differing opinions regarding how anyone who holds that office (whether they're liked or not) should be treated. The assault of a US President shouldn't be condoned by Americans. Ever.
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Why is it a shame? You think Bush is blameless on what people think of him? If he doesn't respect the office and IMO he hasn't, they why do you think people around the world are doing the things that they do?
Maybe you need to peep his approval ratings.
And while you are busy being pissed at my cavalier comments about Bush, maybe you ought to peep this:
Iraq's reconstruction a 100-billion failure
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081214...reconstruction
Talk about a Bridge to Nowhere.....
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12-15-2008, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Oh boo hoo...you want a hanky for it?
Why is it a shame? You think Bush is blameless on what people think of him? If he doesn't respect the office and IMO he hasn't, they why do you think people around the world are doing the things that they do?
Maybe you need to peep his approval ratings.
And while you are busy being pissed at my cavalier comments about Bush, maybe you ought to peep this:
Iraq's reconstruction a 100-billion failure
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081214...reconstruction
Talk about a Bridge to Nowhere.....
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How hypocritical is it to say that YOU have a right to disagree and then follow that up by saying that its ok to assault Bush because he disagrees with you?
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12-15-2008, 04:51 PM
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How hypocritical is it to say that YOU have a right to disagree and then follow that up by saying that its ok to assault Bush because he disagrees with you?
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Dude...you are taking this way too personal...come here and lemme give you a hug and make it feel better ok?
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12-15-2008, 06:34 PM
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Dude...you are taking this way too personal...come here and lemme give you a hug and make it feel better ok?
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You realize how ironic this statement is in light of your statements in this thread, right? You're the one who seems to be taking it the most personally here. Maybe you should take a step back and try to look at it objectively, or as objectively as possible.
No one is saying that it's wrong to disagree with a President, to express that disagreement to the President in the form of protests, etc. It crosses the line when you try to commit assault against that person. You have given lip-service to that point, but the majority of your comments make it seem that you think that the assault is ok, because you don't like President Bush. That's a pretty dangerous concept, in my mind.
Troops die under every President. It's terrible, but it happens. Chances are that troops will die under President Obama, either during the current conflicts, or conflicts that may arise during his presidency. Is it then ok for people to throw shoes at Obama? Again, what about people who lose jobs under an Obama presidency? Can they throw shoes at him? If they do, will he have brought that assault upon himself, as you claim Bush has done?
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12-15-2008, 07:14 PM
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I saw an Iraqi official on either Today or the Early Show this morning who said that under the past regime, the man would receive the death penalty for assaulting a leader. However, he said that under current law, there is no law that addresses it, but he is sure that there will be soon.
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12-15-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.
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Actually, DS, you're the one who is acting like a pissy bitch.
You can hate the man, but you should respect the office. It's a shame that our President is so disliked. But it shouldn't be acceptable for any American to support an assault on our President. Like KSigkid said, there are several posters in this thread who don't much care for Bush (myself included). The problem as I see it isn't that people have differing opinions regarding whether or not they like Bush, it's the differing opinions regarding how anyone who holds that office (whether they're liked or not) should be treated. The assault of a US President shouldn't be condoned by Americans. Ever.
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12-15-2008, 06:06 PM
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Jeni hit it on the head when she disagreed that all world leaders deserve respect.
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Again, disrespecting a world leader through humor? I'll laugh. Disrespecting a world leader to his face? Gutsy. Physically assaulting a world leader? Out of line.
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12-15-2008, 07:14 PM
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Again, disrespecting a world leader through humor? I'll laugh. Disrespecting a world leader to his face? Gutsy. Physically assaulting a world leader? Out of line.
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LEADER?
HA!
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12-15-2008, 07:37 PM
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LEADER?
HA!
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If people think you're a shitty poster, should they throw shit at you?
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12-15-2008, 07:55 PM
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If people think you're a shitty poster, should they throw shit at you?
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I like the direction this thread is headed in.
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12-15-2008, 08:01 PM
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If people think you're a shitty poster, should they throw shit at you?
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Absolutely hilarious.
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I like the direction this thread is headed in.
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Agreed.
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12-15-2008, 08:19 PM
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Throwing a shoe, for me, is not assault. It seems more like he was trying to put the lowest cultural shame on him that he could. I totally got it and died laughing. He didn't get hit and even if he did, he would have at worst just had a knot in the head.
Maybe if he had been used to having shoes flung at him in his youth (particularly toward his backside, as many people I know have experienced) he would have been a better president? Juss sayin'...
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12-15-2008, 08:50 PM
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Think if was a woman who wears 3" heels, like a boomerang...
No, dude should have not thrown shoes at the US president, regardless how we think about the current POTUS.
My question has not been answered, first of all, why was he in Iraq to have shoes thrown at him--making shoes be a terrorist action... Especially fools with size 10 feet or above... They are liable to throwing shoes at our Presidents... Like a suicide shoe thrower-bomber... LOL...
Then secondly, some else ask, WHERE THE [expletive deleted] was the POTUS detail--EFF that I pay taxes for this President to be protected. I do not want to celebrate any holiday in remembrance of this person. Really. And I am sorry, I am not interested in reading President Bush's pop-up book with kiddie mazes, word finds, and connect the dots. No really...
I don't care, the POTUS detail should have check for people shoes being off in order to be thrown. This ain't the Springer show, dammit!!! Isn't that what the SS does when shoes are thrown at people? If that is a well known concept in the Islamic culture, then what's up with the POTUS detail? REALLY!!!
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