oh DAYUM!!! Bush almost got clocked by a SHOE

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I find it repugnant that anyone would support such blatant disrespect of our president. It wasn't funny.

I actually agree here. In another thread a while back, I indicated that I was very liberal in what I consider humorous. In that thread, I said I didn't mind other countries writing political satire and drawing political cartoons that call our leadership out for the things they're doing poorly.

However, in this case, the president was personally assaulted. That's not just disrespectful.

What if one of the shoes had hit him just right and actually killed him? Would it be funny then?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I actually agree here. In another thread a while back, I indicated that I was very liberal in what I consider humorous. In that thread, I said I didn't mind other countries writing political satire and drawing political cartoons that call our leadership out for the things they're doing poorly.

However, in this case, the president was personally assaulted. That's not just disrespectful.

What if one of the shoes had hit him just right and actually killed him? Would it be funny then?

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

I don't even know where to start with this. It's interesting to me how many extremist positions we have on this site (and yes, saying that an attempted assault on the President is acceptable is extremist). I understand dissent, I understand being upset with the Bush presidency (I'm not happy with it), I understand frustration. I don't understand where condoning assault on anyone, let alone a public official, makes any sense.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

In reality, it was congress that authorized the police actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. The President supported these decisions as did many people in the country. We'd need a lot more shoes to deal with the people who really caused the "war." Is that what you're suggesting?

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

Saddam Hussein DID THIS TO HIS OWN PEOPLE:
http://www.kdp.se/old/chemical.html
He massacred thousands of them because they were of a certain race (Kurdish) and you don't think that he deserved to be executed? Better yet you put him on the same level as George Bush? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is that not enough proof for someone as ignorant as yourself? Do you need to see Saddam Hussein personally spraying serin gas into the face of a Kurd to believe it?

As for Katrina: It is NOT the government's responsibility to give people new homes. It sucks for those people but thats the way the world works, its not the government's fault that their home got destroyed and therefore its not their responsibility, those people should be grateful for all of the help that they did receive instead of bitching about not having everything given to them.

As for the families: A lot of those families don't think that their kids died for no good reason and probably wouldn't appreciate people like you saying that. A lot of progress is being made and a lot of people's lives have been changed for the better.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Saddam Hussein DID THIS TO HIS OWN PEOPLE:
http://www.kdp.se/old/chemical.html
He massacred thousands of them because they were of a certain race (Kurdish) and you don't think that he deserved to be executed? Better yet you put him on the same level as George Bush? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is that not enough proof for someone as ignorant as yourself? Do you need to see Saddam Hussein personally spraying serin gas into the face of a Kurd to believe it?

As for Katrina: It is NOT the government's responsibility to give people new homes. It sucks for those people but thats the way the world works, its not the government's fault that their home got destroyed and therefore its not their responsibility, those people should be grateful for all of the help that they did receive instead of bitching about not having everything given to them.

As for the families: A lot of those families don't think that their kids died for no good reason and probably wouldn't appreciate people like you saying that. A lot of progress is being made and a lot of people's lives have been changed for the better.

Dude...you need to calm that shyte down there.

That whole argument that you made there, we can have that same argument on the death penalty in the US.

Find someone that you think is deserving of death and let me see you and you personally pull the trigger or push the button.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I believe that if we spread education throughout the region, people will be able to come to a more realistic view of the US role in the world. We're not doing ourselves any good trying to win the hearts and souls of people with a second grade education and who think that Osama bin Laden is a holy figure.

And if you read the artile that I just posted, there are those that have mixed reactions for what happened to Bush yesterday.

Besides, who the f**k are we to role into a country and try to 'force' them to have a better view of the US????

That is part of why we are where we are NOW.

Reminds me of an old statement, "The Sowrd in one hand and the Bible in the other."

And damn if they don't like what we are offering!

Come into my house pulling some shyte like that I would throw a shoe at you too!!

And yes, Bush has plenty of blood on his hands.

He and his administration have brought our country to an all time low internationally and having a shoe flung at him is just too dayum nutso to take a pass on.

You can agree or disagree on that one.

Whether you like it or not.

I. DO. NOT. FEEL. SORRY. FOR. BUSH.

Hate me for making the statement, you know I don't give a damn.

And you well best believe that there are more here as well as those not on here that have the same sentiment.

Some of you are mad just because a few of us are not ashamed to show our disregard at a joke of a President that we can't wait to see leave in just under 50 days.

PhiGam, if you don't like it, you can kiss my @ss.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Dude...you need to calm that shyte down there.

That whole argument that you made there, we can have that same argument on the death penalty in the US.

Find someone that you think is deserving of death and let me see you and you personally pull the trigger or push the button.



And if you read the artile that I just posted, there are those that have mixed reactions for what happened to Bush yesterday.

Besides, who the f**k are we to role into a country and try to 'force' them to have a better view of the US????

That is part of why we are where we are NOW.

Reminds me of an old statement, "The Sowrd in one hand and the Bible in the other."

And damn if they don't like what we are offering!

Come into my house pulling some shyte like that I would throw a shoe at you too!!

And yes, Bush has plenty of blood on his hands.

He and his administration have brought our country to an all time low internationally and having a shoe flung at him is just too dayum nutso to take a pass on.

You can agree or disagree on that one.

Whether you like it or not.

I. DO. NOT. FEEL. SORRY. FOR. BUSH.

Hate me for making the statement, you know I don't give a damn.

And you well best believe that there are more here as well as those not on here that have the same sentiment.

Some of you are mad just because a few of us are not ashamed to show our disregard at a joke of a President that we can't wait to see leave in just under 50 days.

PhiGam, if you don't like it, you can kiss my @ss.

You think I would have any problem pulling the trigger on Saddam Hussein? Thats laughable.
This isn't the crusades, we are trying to establish a MUSLIM DEMOCRACY as an example to the rest of the region.
You certainly don't have to "feel sorry" for Bush but to say that you wouldn't be saddened if he died is FUCKED UP, no matter how you twist it. You're not going to be very happy when you realize that Obama's Iraq policies are going to be identical to George Bush's (even though he said that he wanted to have all troops out by March 31, 2009- he later said that we probably wont have our troops out by 2013).

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

You can agree or disagree on that one.

Whether you like it or not.

I. DO. NOT. FEEL. SORRY. FOR. BUSH.

Hate me for making the statement, you know I don't give a damn.

And you well best believe that there are more here as well as those not on here that have the same sentiment.

Some of you are mad just because a few of us are not ashamed to show our disregard at a joke of a President that we can't wait to see leave in just under 50 days.

So are people just not allowed to disagree with you?

It's funny too - of the people who have disagreed with you, at least three (myself, preciousjeni and Sen) have stated in previous threads that we're not fans of the Bush presidency. So, that "some of you are made just because a few of us are not ashamed to show our disregard..." statement has little to no relevance to our feelings.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

So are people just not allowed to disagree with you?

It's funny too - of the people who have disagreed with you, at least three (myself, preciousjeni and Sen) have stated in previous threads that we're not fans of the Bush presidency. So, that "some of you are made just because a few of us are not ashamed to show our disregard..." statement has little to no relevance to our feelings.

If you disagree...cool.

We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.

A few gems from he and co. :

" I don't understand where condoning assault on anyone, let alone a public official, makes any sense."

"And for those of you who said you wouldn't be upset if he died... you're retarded. "

"I agree completely. People who think this is funny are, IMO, way out of line."

"You certainly don't have to "feel sorry" for Bush but to say that you wouldn't be saddened if he died is FUCKED UP, "



NO!

It's called practicing my 1st Amendment right!

All I am doing is talking about it!

Jeni hit it on the head when she disagreed that all world leaders deserve respect.

If you don't like them...you don't like them.

And you sure as hell can't force someone to feel sorry for them if something happens.

Hell, if anyone is retarded it would be following along with the crowd in either aspect when you know deep down you feel differently!

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

If you disagree...cool.

We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.
You pissed me off because you stated your indifference towards the DEATH of the President for no other reason then because he disagrees with you politically.

A few gems from he and co. :

" I don't understand where condoning assault on anyone, let alone a public official, makes any sense."

"And for those of you who said you wouldn't be upset if he died... you're retarded. "

"I agree completely. People who think this is funny are, IMO, way out of line."

"You certainly don't have to "feel sorry" for Bush but to say that you wouldn't be saddened if he died is FUCKED UP, "



NO!

It's called practicing my 1st Amendment right!
And nobody is trying to arrest you for it. The first amendment protects from the government suppressing your free speech, not from people calling you out for saying STUPID, CLASSLESS things.

All I am doing is talking about it!
Thats all that anyone is doing on here?

Jeni hit it on the head when she disagreed that all world leaders deserve respect.

If you don't like them...you don't like them.

And you sure as hell can't force someone to feel sorry for them if something happens.

Hell, if anyone is retarded it would be following along with the crowd in either aspect when you know deep down you feel differently!

.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

We are allowed to have a difference of opinion, but to act like a pissy bitch like PhiGam because my opinions differ about Bush and his treatment is on him.

Actually, DS, you're the one who is acting like a pissy bitch.

You can hate the man, but you should respect the office. It's a shame that our President is so disliked. But it shouldn't be acceptable for any American to support an assault on our President. Like KSigkid said, there are several posters in this thread who don't much care for Bush (myself included). The problem as I see it isn't that people have differing opinions regarding whether or not they like Bush, it's the differing opinions regarding how anyone who holds that office (whether they're liked or not) should be treated. The assault of a US President shouldn't be condoned by Americans. Ever.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Jeni hit it on the head when she disagreed that all world leaders deserve respect.

Again, disrespecting a world leader through humor? I'll laugh. Disrespecting a world leader to his face? Gutsy. Physically assaulting a world leader? Out of line.

[honeychile]

Bottom line: just like it works in your GLO, one respects the Office of the President or any similar office. Feel free to love, hate, or be indifferent to President Bush or any of the former Presidents or President-elect Obama, but respect the Ofiice of the American Presidency.

If our Secret Service didn't take Shoe-Boy out, the Iraqi one should have. Assault against a head of state is a capital offense.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Bottom line: just like it works in your GLO, one respects the Office of the President or any similar office. Feel free to love, hate, or be indifferent to President Bush or any of the former Presidents or President-elect Obama, but respect the Ofiice of the American Presidency.

If our Secret Service didn't take Shoe-Boy out, the Iraqi one should have. Assault against a head of state is a capital offense.

They beat him until he cried, according to the news reports.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

They beat him until he cried, according to the news reports.

shyte happens.

Now...what you need to ask yourself is this...

Did he get beaten for the gesture or for the embarrasment that the gesture caused?