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Old 11-15-2008, 07:43 PM
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Ooops, I thought I had included that line as well. But, that still doesn't = scraping. Because, if the IUD was really scraping up womens' endometriae, there'd be many more infections and deaths, right?
I think I missed the whole scraping conversation. I happened to look this up earlier in the thread to see if they were still listed as working partially by preventing implantation.

I think there were a lot of infections and deaths or maybe just infections and lasting infertility with previous versions, but I think IUDs seem to be coming back in an improved form. On the previous version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalkon_Shield

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Old 11-15-2008, 09:50 PM
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Having done the traveling church circuit a few times, the ELCA seems to have catholic with a little c, you guys have the footnote, and our good friends at the WELS just have Christian. They also changed the words, but shoot, they put an ellipsis in any scripture quote that might give women the right to blink, so that's not surprising. The WELS apparently used to have a footnote but it went away.
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I just want to add, in the Roman Catholic mass, when we recite "One holy, catholic and apostolic church" during the Nicene creed, it is also lower case and meaning "universal".
FWIW, add the Presbyterians (PCUSA, at least) to those who simply use the lower case c. No footnotes.
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:02 PM
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I think I missed the whole scraping conversation. I happened to look this up earlier in the thread to see if they were still listed as working partially by preventing implantation.

I think there were a lot of infections and deaths or maybe just infections and lasting infertility with previous versions, but I think IUDs seem to be coming back in an improved form. On the previous version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalkon_Shield
My post was in reference to the allegation that the IUD works by "scraping," when it does not appear to at all.

As the Wikipedia article indicates, the Dalkon Shield was poorly designed and that was the cause of its malfunction, and not a flaw in how it actually worked.
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