No communion for Obama supporters

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Pro-choice - what choice? One from column A, one from column B? Beef or chicken? Pepsi or Coke?

It might just be because I'm tired, but the first thing I thought after reading this was "She forgot 'chicken or fish'."

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

The only two choices are NOT have an legal abortion, or die in a botched illegal one.

I would like to point out to everyone that legalizing abortions (or keeping them legal) will not erase the occurence of "back alley" abortions. Furthermore, any medical procedure carries a huge amount of risk and have the potential to be "botched." The chances are not remotely equal, but they are still present in BOTH scenarios.

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

That is where the debate should center, instead of the idea that anti-abortionists are somehow crazed fundamentalists who want to punish women, or that pro-abortion supporters are murderous immoral relativists. (climbing down off soap box)

AMEN.

That being said, even if both sides respected the fact that each side sees it differently...they will continue to see it differently. This is the very reason why this debate will never die.

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Basically, (and I hate to say basically, because none of it is basic,) no Catholic can receive Communion if they are not in a state of grace.

Grace is a concept that applies to all of us (sinners) and is only given by God through Jesus Christ. Given that it is God who extends His grace to us, then who is the Church to decide who is in a state of grace and who is not? Given that sinners are EVERYBODY, not just people who have committed acts on "the special list" then are we not all living in a perpetual state of grace? This isn't directed at you, irish, I just really felt the need to say it. This priest (and others like him) needs to get off his high horse because supporting Obama does not mean I am not worthy of a connection with God. No other human's beliefs have bearing on mine and supporting a man who supports an issue does not make me support the issue by extension. Even if it did, God's presence is not a nightclub. If you are going to bring people to Him THEN DO IT. He didn't ask for you to check IDs and attire so you can pick and choose who comes to the table.