Question for parents, parents to be, and parent want to be's.....

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by epchick

And do you know how many democrats voted "yes" on prop 8? I bet you it's a whole hell of a lot more than you think it is.

I didn't really think about this, but yeah...there's definitely not enough Republicans in California to pass that thing on their own. Hmmmm.....

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by kstar

I have casual acquaintances, like school/work friends, that don't agree with me, but no, I don't really want to have close friends that don't share my values. Is that really that hard to understand?

Yes. I find it really creepy and sad that you choose to live in such an isolated, insular world.

I don't even know what to say about this whole thing except that you seem to judge everyone based on whether they agree with you or not.

[agzg]

I'd hope my kids didn't keep secrets from me in general, at least not the really important life things. I didn't from my mom. I don't with my dad (although that's been a hard row to hoe because I used to confide in my mom, knowing she would tell my dad, but then I wouldn't have to bring up the more icky girl stuff with him. When we lost her my dad and I had to forge our own relationship, and that was a little rough for a while).

[epchick]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

I didn't really think about this, but yeah...there's definitely not enough Republicans in California to pass that thing on their own. Hmmmm.....

I think there is enough Republicans in California, but you can't say all 5 million people that voted "yes" on prop 8 were Republican.

If you go by the logic of CNN & other news stations, the African-American vote pushed "yes on prop 8" over the edge. Of all the African-American I know, only one is republican (and she voted "no"). Many African-American are democrats, which would mean that MANY of the ~500,000 votes (that was the difference between yes & no) were democratic votes.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

For those of you who have a child, are getting ready to have a child, or want a child in the future, what would be the last (most dreaded) thing (secret) you would hate to find out about your daughter/son? (with the exception of death)

I don't have any children, but if I did, I would be devastated if I found out my daughter/son was on drugs.

I don't have any kids, but if I did, I would be the most devastated if I found out my son/daughter was gay. I wouldn't be able to handle that.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by epchick

I think there is enough Republicans in California, but you can't say all 5 million people that voted "yes" on prop 8 were Republican.

If you go by the logic of CNN & other news stations, the African-American vote pushed "yes on prop 8" over the edge. Of all the African-American I know, only one is republican (and she voted "no"). Many African-American are democrats, which would mean that MANY of the ~500,000 votes (that was the difference between yes & no) were democratic votes.

That's true. However, it's not just the Af-Ams...Latinos, Christians, and married people were in on it, too:

California's black and Latino voters, who turned out in droves for Barack Obama, also provided key support in favor of the state's same-sex marriage ban. Seven in 10 black voters backed a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's May decision allowing same-sex marriage, according to exit polls for The Associated Press.

More than half of Latino voters supported Proposition 8, while whites were split. Religious groups led the tightly organized campaign for the measure, and religious voters were decisive in getting it passed. Of the seven in 10 voters who described themselves as Christian, two-thirds backed the initiative. Married voters and voters with children strongly supported Proposition 8. Unmarried voters were heavily opposed.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...african-a.html

[epchick]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

That's true. However, it's not just the Af-Ams...Latinos, Christians, and married people were in on it, too:



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...african-a.html

Oh I totally know it wasn't just Af-Ams, I was just going by the "logic" of CNN & other news stations that had claimed it was the Af-Ams vote.

[Tippiechick]

Hey Kstar --

If you want to respond to me, why not just do it in this thread.

You said in PM that my "ATTACK" on you had nothing to do with the topic of the thread... Bullshit. You responded to the thread and I responded to you. If you think that's an attack, you really need to grow some ova...

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY PEOPLE ARE SO EAGER TO CLAIM BEING ATTACKED IN A THREAD WHEN ALL THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT BEING AGREED WITH? Discourse. What ever happened to it?

[kstar]

Originally Posted by Tippiechick

Hey Kstar --

If you want to respond to me, why not just do it in this thread.

You said in PM that my "ATTACK" on you had nothing to do with the topic of the thread... Bullshit. You responded to the thread and I responded to you. If you think that's an attack, you really need to grow some ova...

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY PEOPLE ARE SO EAGER TO CLAIM BEING ATTACKED IN A THREAD WHEN ALL THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT BEING AGREED WITH? Discourse. What ever happened to it?

I pmed you.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Tippiechick

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY PEOPLE ARE SO EAGER TO CLAIM BEING ATTACKED IN A THREAD WHEN ALL THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THEY WERE NOT BEING AGREED WITH? Discourse. What ever happened to it?

I think it's the way people word things. Tippie, nothing against you or anyone on greekchat, but when someone responds to an original post, some people get so angry with that person that the name calling and insults begin just because he/she disagrees with that person. To me, that's when it becomes an attack.

I like greekchat a lot but I just don't understand why two or more people can't disagree without the name calling. It's o.k. to tease, but I think the name calling qualifies as an attack. I also think attacks happen to certain members. It's unfortunate, but members respond to usernames, not the posts.

I'm just answering the question. This is just my opinion.

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by kstar

I pmed you.

You resorted to insults, that is an attack. I responded to you in a polite and clear manner. If you have a problem with that, ignore it, don't continue to move the thread away from the topic at hand.
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Insults? Sweetie, if you can't understand the difference between saying you are a closed minded bitch (which would be an insult) and saying I think you live a strange insular, isolated life (which is actually what I said about your comment in the thread) then I hate it for you.

People are allowed to comment on stupid things people say...

Now, stop fucking pm'ing me. If you have something to say, then say it. But, don't clog up my inbox with your moaning and bitching.

[Zephyrus]

Good question, but I would be shocked if I found out my kid was involved in a school shooting and he was the one doing the shooting.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by epchick

Oh I totally know it wasn't just Af-Ams, I was just going by the "logic" of CNN & other news stations that had claimed it was the Af-Ams vote.

Cool beans. I wasn't disagreeing with you, that was for everybody. Sorry, my Hermione is acting up.

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I don't have any kids, but if I did, I would be the most devastated if I found out my son/daughter was gay. I wouldn't be able to handle that.

Gay is the LEAST of my concern...you can be gay and completely healthy physically and mentally, compared to some of the straight people i know who are real pieces of work. would you rather have a gay child or a serial killer child? i think peoples fear in the gay thing is sometimes they think they caused it somehow.

i had my first child at 19, and my parents were, to say the least, devastated. i think at that point, that was the worst thing they could think of to happen to one of their children...8 years later, i completely understand why they felt that way, and why they also changed their minds. they are so over it now!

my parents are christian, so if i asked them, the worst news they could get would be that one of our souls weren't saved and we were going to hell.

[kddani]

What a sick world we live in where someone would rather their child suffer and DIE of a terminal illness than go against their political values.