government mandated slavery - Page 2

nittanyalum · #1 11-08-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StargazerLily

Okay. You win. Have a nice night.

I.A.S.K. · #2 11-08-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StargazerLily

Spreading what little bit of wealth I have to lazy turds who wont work? and we'll see if he's REALLY for middle class america, or just certain middle class americans. Yeah. I said it.

I'll call it like I see it. I think the title is perfectly appropriate. the possibility (whether it passes or not) of the draft, and telling kids they "have" to do community service? Sounds like government mandated slavery to me.

Dont worry, next time I'll title it "Hide your money before Obama takes it and gives it to lazy ass turds." How's that?

Clearly if 50 hours of community service sounds like slavery to you then there are a few problems: Slavery should be studied more in schools, hard work should be necessary, and laziness should be banned.

Also, If you only have a little bit of wealth (ie: less than 250,000 dollars of it) then your wealth is safe. It won't be spread to lazy people. Also, where are you getting this idea that wealth will be spread to lazy people? Even if wealth were to be spread it would be spread to hardworking middle class Americans not to lazy people who do nothing. A tax break doesn't help the unemployed "lazy people on welfare"(people without jobs don't pay income tax).

Why is it that some people can't say what they mean?
What you say is "Obama's gonna redistribute my wealth"
what you mean is "I'm scared that the new black president will only help black people especially because we've had white presidents who only helped white people"

Don't worry though, President Obama and the people in the United States Congress will not pass race-specific tax laws.

XSK_Diamond · #3 11-11-2008, 04:23 PM

I agree, and especially like what's bolded. I wish people would just stop with all the beating around the bush and say what's really on their minds. This passive aggressive crap is for the birds, especially when everybody knows what's really being said, anyway.

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Clearly if 50 hours of community service sounds like slavery to you then there are a few problems: Slavery should be studied more in schools, hard work should be necessary, and laziness should be banned.

Also, If you only have a little bit of wealth (ie: less than 250,000 dollars of it) then your wealth is safe. It won't be spread to lazy people. Also, where are you getting this idea that wealth will be spread to lazy people? Even if wealth were to be spread it would be spread to hardworking middle class Americans not to lazy people who do nothing. A tax break doesn't help the unemployed "lazy people on welfare"(people without jobs don't pay income tax).

Why is it that some people can't say what they mean?
What you say is "Obama's gonna redistribute my wealth"
what you mean is "I'm scared that the new black president will only help black people especially because we've had white presidents who only helped white people"

Don't worry though, President Obama and the people in the United States Congress will not pass race-specific tax laws.

Nanners52674 · #4 11-09-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StargazerLily

telling kids they "have" to do community service? Sounds like government mandated slavery to me.

My high school as well as the other two in the town had mandatory service projects that had to be completed or you would not graduate. Obama's idea is NOT a bad one, as it's done in many high schools currently. Also I think it would help a lot of kids to see a different part of society that they aren't typically exposed to.

UGAalum94 · #5 11-09-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanners52674

My high school as well as the other two in the town had mandatory service projects that had to be completed or you would not graduate. Obama's idea is NOT a bad one, as it's done in many high schools currently. Also I think it would help a lot of kids to see a different part of society that they aren't typically exposed to.

Just because an idea isn't a bad one doesn't mean it's a legitimate function of the government, especially the federal government. But the wording has already been changed to make this a goal rather than a requirement, so it's hardly forcing anyone to do anything.

ETA:Here’s a cached page with the “required” language.
http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

Here’s the changed version with the current “set a goal” language:

http://change.gov/americaserves/
(both these were linked on Instapundit.com)

EATA: I think it's kind of interesting that the second also suggests remuneration for the work for the college kids, which didn't seem to be in the first one.

amanda6035 · #6 11-09-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Just because an idea isn't a bad one doesn't mean it's a legitimate function of the government, especially the federal government. But the wording has already been changed to make this a goal rather than a requirement, so it's hardly forcing anyone to do anything.

ETA:Here’s a cached page with the “required” language.
http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

Here’s the changed version with the current “set a goal” language:

http://change.gov/americaserves/
(both these were linked on Instapundit.com)

EATA: I think it's kind of interesting that the second also suggests remuneration for the work for the college kids, which didn't seem to be in the first one.

Obama's living up to change already.

Way to go, website editors!

DGTess · #7 11-09-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by amanda6035

Obama's living up to change already.

Way to go, website editors!

You got to this first. Thanks!

Can you spell flip-flop?

Munchkin03 · #8 11-09-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DGTess

You got to this first. Thanks!

Can you spell flip-flop?

Can you spell bitter old hag?

amanda6035 · #9 11-09-2008, 06:37 PM

HAHAHAHA....

This is funny....and appropriate for this thread. LOL!!!

http://www.236.com/video/2008/get_yo...orde_10121.php

XSK_Diamond · #10 11-11-2008, 04:38 PM

That doesn't mean he flip flopped. The first draft could have been put up prematurely before it was given final approval, or something. Geez, some of you act like Obama doesn't have people (who make mistakes) working for him. He's not doing all of this stuff himself. Get real. Please.

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Originally Posted by DGTess

You got to this first. Thanks!

Can you spell flip-flop?

Senusret I · #11 11-11-2008, 06:49 PM

Pay her no attention. She's still a little upset because a house fell on her sister.

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Originally Posted by XSK_Diamond

That doesn't mean he flip flopped. The first draft could have been put up prematurely before it was given final approval, or something. Geez, some of you act like Obama doesn't have people (who make mistakes) working for him. He's not doing all of this stuff himself. Get real. Please.

Tinia2 · #12 11-12-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XSK_Diamond

That doesn't mean he flip flopped. The first draft could have been put up prematurely before it was given final approval, or something. Geez, some of you act like Obama doesn't have people (who make mistakes) working for him. He's not doing all of this stuff himself. Get real. Please.

Change You Can't Click On

After one big change, Obama makes a few smaller changes to his Web site.

Now that the election is over, it's time to break some campaign promises! Because of the Web's constant hunger for new information, President-elect Barack Obama is in a uniquely difficult spot. He's issued and revised so many white papers and policy proposals that if he so much as sneezes the wrong way, he risks reversing something published on his campaign Web site.......

http://www.slate.com/id/2204041/?from=rss