Internal Battles Divided McCain and Palin Camps

[UGAalum94]

I really wish there were some sort of objective and reliable recording of what happened some of the stuff reported about Palin. It's certainly possible that I've just been giving Palin way too much credit, but some of the accusations this week are really mind boggling. I'd love to know if they really happened and if so, what context they occurred in.

Did she really not know the countries in North American or did she wonder if somehow other countries were included in NAFTA? (It would be goofy still, but sometimes the names we give to organizations that seem geographic aren't really limited that way and maybe she was afraid she missed coverage of other countries in the Americas joining the agreement. I don't know. If she lives in Alaska, how could she not know Canada was involved and how could anyone not know Mexico was involved? It's actually mind boggling.) Did she misspeak about Africa or really not know it was a continent? It's one thing to be kind of dumb, but it would seem really almost impossible that one could be a college graduate and be that bad off.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I really wish there were some sort of objective and reliable recording of what happened some of the stuff reported about Palin. It's certainly possible that I've just been giving Palin way too much credit, but some of the accusations this week are really mind boggling.

No kidding...heh

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

t's one thing to be kind of dumb, but it would seem really almost impossible that one could be a college graduate and be that bad off.

Dan Quayle?

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

Dan Quayle?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

Dan Quayle?

I think Dan's stupidity was greatly exaggerated. He said dumb stuff sure, but do you think you could graduate from college, law school and pass the Indiana bar if you were actually as dumb as some of his quotes made him seem?

Maybe, but it seems more likely to me that he just didn't think as much as he should have as he was speaking.

I mean, we have a couple of Biden comments that would place him in the running for this kind of stupid too, but I doubt that most people who think that Palin and Quayle are really this stupid would accept that Biden is.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I think Dan's stupidity was greatly exaggerated. He said dumb stuff sure, but do you think you could graduate from college, law school and pass the Indiana bar if you were actually as dumb as some of his quotes made him seem?

Maybe, but it seems more likely to me that he just didn't think as much as he should have as he was speaking.

I mean, we have a couple of Biden comments that would place him in the running for this kind of stupid too, but I doubt that most people who think that Palin and Quayle are really this stupid would accept that Biden is.

I think I know more lawyers than you, and therefore I am going to say YES. Also, Quayle was from an prominent wealthy family in the area. I think every attorney on GC is going to remember someone from their law school class who perhaps shouldn't have been there. Here's an interesting article on his legal career: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...973683,00.html

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

I think I know more lawyers than you, and therefore I am going to say YES. Also, Quayle was from an prominent wealthy family in the area. I think every attorney on GC is going to remember someone from their law school class who perhaps shouldn't have been there. Here's an interesting article on his legal career: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...973683,00.html

I think think we're talking about a different level of stupid in Quayle's publicly repeated comments and any lack of academic or legal achievement.

While I don't assume you have to be really smart to be a lawyer, I don't think if a person were actually as stupid as one would have be if Dan Quayle's quotes were indicative of his or her general intelligence, that he or she could pass the bar, even if he or she got through school based on family influence.

I'm not really making a case that Quayle is some sort of genius; I just don't think the worst of his quotes are indicative of his intelligence generally.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I think Dan's stupidity was greatly exaggerated. He said dumb stuff sure, but do you think you could graduate from college, law school and pass the Indiana bar if you were actually as dumb as some of his quotes made him seem?

Maybe, but it seems more likely to me that he just didn't think as much as he should have as he was speaking.

I mean, we have a couple of Biden comments that would place him in the running for this kind of stupid too, but I doubt that most people who think that Palin and Quayle are really this stupid would accept that Biden is.

This is partially off-topic, but I don't think Bush I had a high opinion of Quayle, and started to regret the pick soon after he made it. Grand Old Party, an excellent book about the history of the Republican party, talks a little about his regret over it.

Had the Democrats actually put forth a decent candidate in '88, it would have been interesting to see what kind of affect Quayle had on the electorate. Fortunately for the Republicans, Dukakis ran one of the 2-3 worst campaigns in history.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

This is partially off-topic, but I don't think Bush I had a high opinion of Quayle, and started to regret the pick soon after he made it. Grand Old Party, an excellent book about the history of the Republican party, talks a little about his regret over it.

Had the Democrats actually put forth a decent candidate in '88, it would have been interesting to see what kind of affect Quayle had on the electorate. Fortunately for the Republicans, Dukakis ran one of the 2-3 worst campaigns in history.

I'm not particularly a Quayle fan. I think you just quoted me to reintroduce the topic. But just for the record, I didn't bring him up and am completely unprepared to talk about him on his merits, other than not thinking he was really the complete idiot he was made out to be.

ETA: I started to mention something about Dukakis's lack of charisma, no matter what kind of campaign he ran, and then kind of mentally contrasted him with HW Bush, and it didn't seems so remarkable.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I'm not particularly a Quayle fan. I think you just quoted me to reintroduce the topic. But just for the record, I didn't bring him up and am completely unprepared to talk about him on his merits, other than not thinking he was really the complete idiot he was made out to be.

ETA: I started to mention something about Dukakis's lack of charisma, no matter what kind of campaign he ran, and then kind of mentally contrasted him with HW Bush, and it didn't seems so remarkable.

Oh, I wasn't making you out to be part of the Quayle fan club. As you said, I was only quoting your statement to tie it back to the thread.

I could have a whole conversation on the '88 election, which I find endlessly fascinating, but it would be very much off topic and boring to 99% of the board.