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Old 10-29-2008, 07:28 PM
JonoBN41 JonoBN41 is offline
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McCain should not be permitted to define the American Dream.

And why do you quote everything? It just wastes space.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:34 PM
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McCain should not be permitted to define the American Dream.

And why do you quote everything? It just wastes space.
I don't think he did. I think you attempted to do it for him.

Thanks for the tip about quoting.
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:44 PM
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@ Jono

I wouldn't necessarily say that Obama "pulled himself up by his bootstraps." He went to an elite private high school, and, while his family life wasn't perfect, he was raised by highly-intelligent middle to upper-middle class parents and grandparents. He deserves credit for making the most of his opportunities, but he's not some rags-to-riches story.

Additionally, any time I've heard about the "American Dream," one of the components that is often mentioned is owning a home. Now, I don't have any specific cites for this, but I would imagine it evolved from an earlier component of the dream, being owning one's own piece of land.

McCain wasn't defining the "American Dream," he was talking about his own impression of what it is.
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:31 PM
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@ Jono

I wouldn't necessarily say that Obama "pulled himself up by his bootstraps." He went to an elite private high school, and, while his family life wasn't perfect, he was raised by highly-intelligent middle to upper-middle class parents and grandparents. He deserves credit for making the most of his opportunities, but he's not some rags-to-riches story.

Additionally, any time I've heard about the "American Dream," one of the components that is often mentioned is owning a home. Now, I don't have any specific cites for this, but I would imagine it evolved from an earlier component of the dream, being owning one's own piece of land.

McCain wasn't defining the "American Dream," he was talking about his own impression of what it is.
The American Dream is a tragic falsehood and ungodly idol. With that said, homeownership is one of the most accessible ways to begin building wealth. It is part of the American Dream.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:53 AM
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I think owning your own home is considered by many a component of the American Dream.
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Additionally, any time I've heard about the "American Dream," one of the components that is often mentioned is owning a home. Now, I don't have any specific cites for this, but I would imagine it evolved from an earlier component of the dream, being owning one's own piece of land.
I would say that every description of the American Dream I have ever heard includes owning your own home as the sine qua non component.
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