What is the most important bill your local jurisdiction needs a vote on?

[Munchkin03]

In Florida, there's a proposition to define marriage as existing between one man and one woman. There's also another initiative to allow the state to prevent illegal immigrants from owning or inheriting property.

[AGDee]

Our biggies are:

Proposal 1: To legalize marijuana for medical use

And we have a really big one that has generated tons of bizarre ads against it...

Proposal 2:
A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ADDRESS HUMAN EMBRYO AND HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IN MICHIGAN

The proposed constitutional amendment would:

* Expand use of human embryos for any research permitted under federal law subject to the following limits: the embryos –

– are created for fertility treatment purposes;

– are not suitable for implantation or are in excess of clinical needs;

– would be discarded unless used for research;

– were donated by the person seeking fertility treatment.

* Provide that stem cells cannot be taken from human embryos more than 14 days after cell division begins.
* Prohibit any person from selling or purchasing human embryos for stem cell research.
* Prohibit state and local laws that prevent, restrict or discourage stem cell research, future therapies and cures.


I bolded the part that has some people worried, even those who are all for continued embryonic stem cell research. Even *I* have concerns about that last line. I'm honestly not sure what to do about that one.

The ads against it are ridiculous though. One ad talks about how much money this will cost tax payers (for the research, apparently). One shows office buildings with names like EmbryoPro and stuff, as if there will be embryo factories as a result of this being passed. Another talks about how someone could merge human and animal embryos and they show someone raising their "hoof" in an audience.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Our biggies are:

Proposal 1: To legalize marijuana for medical use

And we have a really big one that has generated tons of bizarre ads against it...

Proposal 2:
A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ADDRESS HUMAN EMBRYO AND HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IN MICHIGAN

The proposed constitutional amendment would:

* Expand use of human embryos for any research permitted under federal law subject to the following limits: the embryos –

– are created for fertility treatment purposes;

– are not suitable for implantation or are in excess of clinical needs;

– would be discarded unless used for research;

– were donated by the person seeking fertility treatment.

* Provide that stem cells cannot be taken from human embryos more than 14 days after cell division begins.
* Prohibit any person from selling or purchasing human embryos for stem cell research.
* Prohibit state and local laws that prevent, restrict or discourage stem cell research, future therapies and cures.


I bolded the part that has some people worried, even those who are all for continued embryonic stem cell research. Even *I* have concerns about that last line. I'm honestly not sure what to do about that one.

The ads against it are ridiculous though. One ad talks about how much money this will cost tax payers (for the research, apparently). One shows office buildings with names like EmbryoPro and stuff, as if there will be embryo factories as a result of this being passed. Another talks about how someone could merge human and animal embryos and they show someone raising their "hoof" in an audience.

what state is this for?

[AGDee]

Michigan

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

what state is this for?

Seeing as it is a "A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ADDRESS HUMAN EMBRYO AND HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IN MICHIGAN," I'm going to guess Nebraska or Florida.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Seeing as it is a "A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ADDRESS HUMAN EMBRYO AND HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IN MICHIGAN," I'm going to guess Nebraska or Florida.

Even when AGDee's location says "Michigan"?

I'm glad I live somewhere that voter propositions don't go on the ballot. No constitutional amendments or bond referenda this year.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Our biggies are:

Proposal 1: To legalize marijuana for medical use

And we have a really big one that has generated tons of bizarre ads against it...

Proposal 2:
A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ADDRESS HUMAN EMBRYO AND HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IN MICHIGAN

The proposed constitutional amendment would:

* Expand use of human embryos for any research permitted under federal law subject to the following limits: the embryos –

– are created for fertility treatment purposes;

– are not suitable for implantation or are in excess of clinical needs;

– would be discarded unless used for research;

– were donated by the person seeking fertility treatment.

* Provide that stem cells cannot be taken from human embryos more than 14 days after cell division begins.
* Prohibit any person from selling or purchasing human embryos for stem cell research.
* Prohibit state and local laws that prevent, restrict or discourage stem cell research, future therapies and cures.


I bolded the part that has some people worried, even those who are all for continued embryonic stem cell research. Even *I* have concerns about that last line. I'm honestly not sure what to do about that one.

The ads against it are ridiculous though. One ad talks about how much money this will cost tax payers (for the research, apparently). One shows office buildings with names like EmbryoPro and stuff, as if there will be embryo factories as a result of this being passed. Another talks about how someone could merge human and animal embryos and they show someone raising their "hoof" in an audience.

Just yesterday, there was a news article on Yahoo about the use of fat cells to develop into brain cells. I knew I should have copied it! When you think of the amount of liposuction going on (or should be done), you could have enough fat cells for several Einsteins!

And DS, FWIW, we've had slots here for little over a year. The rise in the number of compulsive gamblers has gone through the roof in that time.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Just yesterday, there was a news article on Yahoo about the use of fat cells to develop into brain cells. I knew I should have copied it! When you think of the amount of liposuction going on (or should be done), you could have enough fat cells for several Einsteins!

And DS, FWIW, we've had slots here for little over a year. The rise in the number of compulsive gamblers has gone through the roof in that time.

couldn't find that article either but studies have been going on for a LOoooonnnnng while....


As far as slots are...look at it like this,,,it is money coming from 2 ends...you spend it to play and then your insurance spends it to wean you from playing....

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

couldn't find that article either but studies have been going on for a LOoooonnnnng while....

Found it! Stem Cells From Fat Create Beating Heart Cells.

"Melbourne scientists recently discovered that stem cells isolated from human fat could be made to turn into beating heart muscle cells when cultured with rat heart cells...."

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

In Florida, there's a proposition to define marriage as existing between one man and one woman.

Oh, that's soooooooo 2004.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

In Florida, there's a proposition to define marriage as existing between one man and one woman. There's also another initiative to allow the state to prevent illegal immigrants from owning or inheriting property.

Ooh, not that people weren't motivated to vote already, but both those are doing to drive people to the polls. The first always gets the evangelicals out.

It will be interesting to see how they go with what's expected to be a big turn out. Maybe it will moderate the vote.