Breaking News: Senator Obama Calls Off his Campaign

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Here you go, happy? http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...ipt/index.html

And I assume this is the "offensive" paragraph/statement you keep referring to?

Even out of context, this doesn't even approach what you're trying to interpret his comments as saying.

I didn't refer to an "offensive" paragraph. And I wonder if you would find "racist" an appropriate word to describe someone who is afraid of black men and utters ethnic and racist stereotypes. I might, but I probably wouldn't refer to such a person an a typical white person.

I'm sincerely sorry for hi-jacking this in this direction. I don't think I would have even thought of it had the story not mentioned the speech but then omitted the nature of how he used her as an illustration.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I didn't refer to an "offensive" paragraph. And I wonder if you would find "racist" an appropriate word to describe someone who is afraid of black men and utters ethnic and racist stereotypes. I might, but I probably wouldn't refer to such a person an a typical white person.

Yeah, I didn't "hear" that interview, would love a link.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Yeah, I didn't "hear" that interview, would love a link.

I intentionally plucked this from a non-right wing site:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/20/141741/528

ETA: Huff Post seems to have an active audio link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...-_n_92587.html

It's hard to find an active clip of the audio, but this myDD page links to another blogger covering it.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I intentionally plucked this from a non-right wing site:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/20/141741/528

ETA: Huff Post seems to have an active audio link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...-_n_92587.html

It's hard to find an active clip of the audio, but this myDD page links to another blogger covering it.

I'm glad you found the other link because yeah, the blog from "bdog"... not exactly the news source you trust.

Hey, look, if you can listen to that entire clip (and yes, I'm sure that he in retrospect thought that if he'd had an edit button he'd have taken out the word "white" and either left it as "typical person" or even attribute it to her being from an older generation) and really only get out of it that he is therefore calling every white person "racist" and not getting what he's actually trying to address, then that's what you get to hear/believe. I get what he's saying. And I appreciate that he's not afraid to talk about these issues in a more frank manner than people are used to. But if you're not hearing that or getting that, then hey, that's your prism and your perspective and feel free to keep harping, then.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I didn't refer to an "offensive" paragraph. And I wonder if you would find "racist" an appropriate word to describe someone who is afraid of black men and utters ethnic and racist stereotypes. I might, but I probably wouldn't refer to such a person an a typical white person.

Considering that in 1955 when Rosa Parks refused to move to the back of the bus, Obama's grandmother would have been 33, I'd say it's fair to say that her attitudes were typical for her generation. I know, he didn't specifically say that. I also know that he grew up as a bi-racial kid during a time that it was extremely frowned upon. I'd like to believe that it's not typical now, but I've heard enough to believe that racism is still pretty active. I'm still shocked that the "n" word comes out of some people's mouths as easily as it does. I watched our school board, in 1983, harass a new kid in school for more and more proof of residency when he moved into our area until he finally gave up and went back to his old high school for his senior year because he was the first African American to ever come to our school district. I saw it rampant in the generation before me. I see it less in my generation. I see it even less in my daughter's generation, thank goodness. It's becoming less typical, it's taking generations and generations but it's still there. We have to look a little harder for it when we're white because we're not the target, but it's clear from threads on here, that our African American posters on GC see it a lot more.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Considering that in 1955 when Rosa Parks refused to move to the back of the bus, Obama's grandmother would have been 33, I'd say it's fair to say that her attitudes were typical for her generation. I know, he didn't specifically say that. I also know that he grew up as a bi-racial kid during a time that it was extremely frowned upon. I'd like to believe that it's not typical now, but I've heard enough to believe that racism is still pretty active. I'm still shocked that the "n" word comes out of some people's mouths as easily as it does. I watched our school board, in 1983, harass a new kid in school for more and more proof of residency when he moved into our area until he finally gave up and went back to his old high school for his senior year because he was the first African American to ever come to our school district. I saw it rampant in the generation before me. I see it less in my generation. I see it even less in my daughter's generation, thank goodness. It's becoming less typical, it's taking generations and generations but it's still there. We have to look a little harder for it when we're white because we're not the target, but it's clear from threads on here, that our African American posters on GC see it a lot more.

No doubt.