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10-09-2008, 03:20 PM
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Let me see if I have this straight. You said McCain has said he does not want to tax the wealthy.
When challenged on that, you countered with his statements in Tuesday night's debate: "Let's not raise anybody's taxes" and "I am not in favor of tax cuts for the wealthy."
When it was pointed out to you that those comments are not statements that "he does not want to tax the wealthy," you responded by essentially saying that because Bush and others went back on their campaign promises, McCain's statements must be interpreted to mean "he does not want to tax the wealthy"?
Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic.
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10-09-2008, 03:26 PM
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I did. Do I understand you correctly now? Are you're admitting that McCain hasn't said he doesn't want to tax the wealthy? And are you understanding that any confusion was because were took you to mean what you said? 
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10-09-2008, 03:32 PM
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I did. Do I understand you correctly now? Are you're admitting that McCain hasn't said he doesn't want to tax the wealthy? And are you understanding that any confusion was because were took you to mean what you said? |
we are close...
McCain will not raise taxes on the wealthy <---clear?
if taxes are raised in his admin it will be on the poor and middle income people <---clear?
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10-09-2008, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
we are close...
McCain will not raise taxes on the wealthy <---clear?
if taxes are raised in his admin it will be on the poor and middle income people <---clear?
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Quite clear in both cases. Just so we continue to be clear, neither of those two things are what you said before.
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10-09-2008, 03:51 PM
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Quite clear in both cases. Just so we continue to be clear, neither of those two things are what you said before. |
I did...you misunderstood me...and we will KIM.
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10-09-2008, 03:58 PM
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I did...you misunderstood me...and we will KIM.
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No, you didn't. You may have MEANT it, but the words you said have a clear meaning, and it's one quite distinct from what you're insisting now that you were talking about.
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10-09-2008, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
we are close...
McCain will not raise taxes on the wealthy <---clear?
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This is clear, but only because of his stance that he will not raise taxes at all.
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if taxes are raised in his admin it will be on the poor and middle income people <---clear?
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There is no evidence this is the case, this is simply your assertion.
Your evidence of this fact is George HW Bush. This could just as easily be turned around on Obama, by saying that if his tax on >$250k income doesn't produce the revenue he needs for his expanded programs (and there is certainly some evidence it will not), then he will be forced to tax the middle class, because there is only so much blood in the proverbial stone.
See how inane the argument becomes?
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10-09-2008, 03:30 PM
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You know...it's great that we can have these discussions and disagree on this as we clearly think that it's important...but someone please give John a clue right now:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/.../obama_ayers_2
I still say, when he had him face to face tuesday, why didn't he slide it in?
(Rhetorical)
Last desperate chance by McCain and I think this is the big mistake that will cost him...but...let's carry on shall we?
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10-09-2008, 03:42 PM
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That article was about Sarah Palin, why would someone need to "give John a clue?"
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10-09-2008, 03:43 PM
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That article was about Sarah Palin, why would someone need to "give John a clue?"
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ummm...who does Palin work for??
you may want to see this too
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200....MH8MFTelsnwcF
ETA
If anything, today has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt McCain doesn't believe in what he says
In 2000
He said "...when you run negative attack ads, you have no vision or cant articulate your own vision."
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsX2Gx9jl_o -
u cant make that up.
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10-09-2008, 03:58 PM
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So, if Obama said something 8 years ago, and then is doing somethign else today, does that mean that he doesn't believe what he says? Or is that different?
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