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09-20-2008, 01:34 PM
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I gotta say that it looks like something is off with this list. I don't know what their metric is or what the list claims to demonstrate, but if it's prestige/competitiveness, something is off. First off, where is Rice? Did they opt out of Forbes' list? Rice should be on there and it should be the highest ranked school in Texas more than likely. SMU is also missing. And the idea that a University of Dallas degree is more competitive than a UT-Austin degree, or that UD is harder to get into than UT, or even that UD is a "better school" is nonsense to me. And Abilene Christian being ABOVE TCU and UH? That's total crap. I know a thing or two about Abilene Christian and what I know is not good - it's not a good school. Or at least NOT better than TCU or UH and for that matter UNT and UT-D. Some of the other things I could believe depending on what metric they're choosing - like UTEP at #7 for example, but Abilene Christian from what I know of it is pretty flat out crappy. And I still want to know where Rice and SMU are...
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Yea.. I went to UNT, and I can't figure out why it's ranked above TCU either  Something in that list is not right for sure... which is why I think those types of lists that make "tiers" are all crap anyway
For some reason I thought Austin College was a 2-yr school??
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09-20-2008, 02:49 PM
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Yea.. I went to UNT, and I can't figure out why it's ranked above TCU either  Something in that list is not right for sure... which is why I think those types of lists that make "tiers" are all crap anyway
For some reason I thought Austin College was a 2-yr school??
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Austin College is a private 4 year university. I do know that it is known for its academics. Back when I went to school, it was considered one of the great schools for students interested in teaching. It's reputation in other subjects has steadily improved since I finished school. I don't know much more about it, but I do know that it has a pretty good academic reputation.
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09-21-2008, 01:51 AM
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Austin College is a private 4 year university. I do know that it is known for its academics. Back when I went to school, it was considered one of the great schools for students interested in teaching. It's reputation in other subjects has steadily improved since I finished school. I don't know much more about it, but I do know that it has a pretty good academic reputation.
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One of my best friends in grad school/Austin went to Austin College for undergrad. You might be confusing it with Austin Community College or something.
Austin College is a liberal arts school and my friend has good things to say about it. They actually have a really strong local fraternity/sorority system. It's interesting to hear about it and how it was different and yet the same as my national GLO experience at a liberal arts school. She wasn't Greek but her husband was - I forget which org.
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09-21-2008, 07:07 AM
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Austin College is a private 4 year university. I do know that it is known for its academics. Back when I went to school, it was considered one of the great schools for students interested in teaching. It's reputation in other subjects has steadily improved since I finished school. I don't know much more about it, but I do know that it has a pretty good academic reputation.
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Austin College and Southwestern College in Georgetown, TX are both listed in the Colleges That Change Lives. CTCL schools tend to be LACs that focus on the actual teaching of the undergraduates rather than on graduate/professional education and/or research. http://www.ctcl.org/about/why-ctcl
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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin
First off, where is Rice? Did they opt out of Forbes' list? Rice should be on there and it should be the highest ranked school in Texas more than likely. SMU is also missing.
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Rice is 41 on the Forbes list. IMO, this is way too low considering the caliber of that school. SMU is 186. Southwestern is ranked at 133.
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09-21-2008, 04:19 PM
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Rice is 41 on the Forbes list. IMO, this is way too low considering the caliber of that school. SMU is 186. Southwestern is ranked at 133.
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That's interesting. Why do you think it's too low? I think 41 out of 500+ schools is really good. I wonder why Rice nor SMU are listed in the Texas section?
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09-21-2008, 09:21 PM
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Dis 'n' Dat ...
Is Greek Life as important at Texas A&M and Texas Tech as it is at the Austin campus of the University of Texas? Is recruitment as competitive at Tech and A&M as it is in Austin?
A couple of years ago, TEXAS MONTHLY had a article about the possible creation of third flagship university of the state. Tech was considered to be the logical choice, with its location as a major drawback. Ditto the El Paso campus of the University of Texas. The author of the article theorized that North Texas or Texas State might have a better chance of being designated "flagship." The author also mentioned the possibility of a brand new flagship campus being created in Dallas (more likely) or Houston (less likey). Friends tell me that the third flagship issue is a popular topic for TEXAS MONTHLY and other publications.
A friend's daughter went to St. Edward's in Austin, but she took her ROTC classes at the Austin campus of the University of Texas. She was amazed at the role Greek Life played on the campus and the lengths women went to to get into a sorority. My friend's daughter wasn't too impressed with a lot of the people she met at the Austin campus. She told her father "They may be smart enough to get into the U of T, but the truth is, I wouldn't want to follow a Texas grad into battle nor would I want to have to lead a Texas grad into battle. They are way too full of themselves. They ain't as smart as they think they are."
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09-22-2008, 02:54 AM
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A friend's daughter went to St. Edward's in Austin, but she took her ROTC classes at the Austin campus of the University of Texas. She was amazed at the role Greek Life played on the campus and the lengths women went to to get into a sorority. My friend's daughter wasn't too impressed with a lot of the people she met at the Austin campus. She told her father "They may be smart enough to get into the U of T, but the truth is, I wouldn't want to follow a Texas grad into battle nor would I want to have to lead a Texas grad into battle. They are way too full of themselves. They ain't as smart as they think they are."
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09-22-2008, 08:01 AM
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There is what is sometimes referred to as the "UT attitude". I married a Longhorn, so I know of whence I speak. 
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09-22-2008, 12:15 PM
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Dis 'n' Dat ...
Is Greek Life as important at Texas A&M and Texas Tech as it is at the Austin campus of the University of Texas? Is recruitment as competitive at Tech and A&M as it is in Austin?
A couple of years ago, TEXAS MONTHLY had a article about the possible creation of third flagship university of the state. Tech was considered to be the logical choice, with its location as a major drawback. Ditto the El Paso campus of the University of Texas. The author of the article theorized that North Texas or Texas State might have a better chance of being designated "flagship." The author also mentioned the possibility of a brand new flagship campus being created in Dallas (more likely) or Houston (less likey). Friends tell me that the third flagship issue is a popular topic for TEXAS MONTHLY and other publications.
A friend's daughter went to St. Edward's in Austin, but she took her ROTC classes at the Austin campus of the University of Texas. She was amazed at the role Greek Life played on the campus and the lengths women went to to get into a sorority. My friend's daughter wasn't too impressed with a lot of the people she met at the Austin campus. She told her father "They may be smart enough to get into the U of T, but the truth is, I wouldn't want to follow a Texas grad into battle nor would I want to have to lead a Texas grad into battle. They are way too full of themselves. They ain't as smart as they think they are."
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Greeks make up only 11% of the undergrad population at UT Austin (that includes ALL Greek organizations,not just IFC and NPC). That's roughly 4,000 students on a campus with 48,000 total students. Your "friend's daughter" is painting a picture of the average "Texas Grad" with pretty broad strokes, wouldn't you say? At a school that large, you've got ALL types, many of whom happen to be just as humble and worthy as any St. Edwards grad.
I graduated from UT, and I can say that the Greeks don't dominate campus life. They are a tiny minority on campus, which is NOT to say they don't make their presence known, of course. Then again, I did graduate a WHILE ago.
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