Looking for an alternative

SigPiF2k7 · #1 09-08-2008, 02:29 PM

Ya im not too concerned about gettin our charter back. they already leased our house as apartments and I dont think they will give it back anyways. so thats not my number one priority. I just want to be together as a fraternity again and want to rush and be as close to a real on-campus fraternity as we can.

33girl · #2 09-08-2008, 02:38 PM

It's not underground if you talk about it on the internet.

And if you can't figure it out, you probably can't pull it off.

adpiucf · #3 09-08-2008, 02:56 PM

Don't go "underground."

If you want a fraternity experience, but your fraternity is no longer allowed to be on campus, you do have an option: Start a local fraternity that has no resemblance to the national that has been kicked off. Create your own name, rituals, symbols, etc.

SigPiF2k7 · #4 09-08-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

It's not underground if you talk about it on the internet.

And if you can't figure it out, you probably can't pull it off.

I never said that is all i wanna do and its not like you know what school i go to or anything... I am just looking for something else my fraternity can do... underground was just one of the options.. I was just asking if i could get in legal trouble for using the old name or if there are any other alternatives.

LucyKKG · #5 09-09-2008, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SigPiF2k7

I never said that is all i wanna do and its not like you know what school i go to or anything... I am just looking for something else my fraternity can do... underground was just one of the options.. I was just asking if i could get in legal trouble for using the old name or if there are any other alternatives.

I'm sure you can get in trouble for using your old name. There are major legal issues there.

Also...it's really not that hard for someone to figure out what school you go to. SigPiF2k7 means you're a Sigma Pi initiated in Fall 2007. It wouldn't be that hard to figure out which school recently put a Sigma Pi chapter on suspension (or whatever you're on) for 3 years.

rufio · #6 09-09-2008, 03:41 AM

do you know what you just got yourself into?

33girl · #7 09-09-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rufio

do you know what you just got yourself into?

LOL. I was up till 3 AM and this dork isn't worth it.

But all I said was the truth.

Zillini · #8 09-09-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SigPiF2k7

Ya im not too concerned about gettin our charter back. they already leased our house as apartments and I dont think they will give it back anyways. so thats not my number one priority. I just want to be together as a fraternity again and want to rush and be as close to a real on-campus fraternity as we can.

I think your priorities are out of line. It usually takes a major problem/incident for a group to be kicked off campus for 3 years, lose their charter and have their house leased out. Addressing that problem before it came to that extreme would have been my number one priority.

MysticCat · #9 09-09-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SigPiF2k7

II was just asking if i could get in legal trouble for using the old name or if there are any other alternatives.

Definately you could get in legal trouble for holding yourself out as a chapter of Sigma Pi if you are not.

SigPiF2k7 · #10 09-09-2008, 01:47 PM

ya sorry to clarify i would not use the old name, the problem is people just consider us old sigma pi's i guess. so i dont really know what to do.. i would really like to do something these next three years and what i would really love to do is keep close with my brothers and be able to do what every other fraternity is doing. and that is expanding.... I could never imagine myself being around a better group of guys and would never of considered a different fraternity even knowing the outcome.. to clarify they accused us of hazing and underage drinkin and our nationals pulled our charter. just imagine your sorority or fraternity getting kicked off campus your freshman year and understand that its a hard thing to got through.In the past two years 2 fraternities and 1 sorority have been kicked off campus. we really just want to stay together, expand, and meet even more people. ANY ADVICE WILL HELP. criticism will not help. THANKS AGAIN

33girl · #11 09-09-2008, 01:56 PM

First off, don't "use" a service fraternity or other group to stay together. It is extremely disrespectful.

Schools usually follow what the national does, so if your national saw fit to pull your charter, it's unlikely the school will back you in becoming a local or finding another group. Once in a while the 2 disagree, but not often.

And what I said about going underground still stands. If you have to ask how to do it then you probably shouldn't attempt it. GC is not as anonymous as you may think.

SigPiF2k7 · #12 09-09-2008, 02:05 PM

I saw that when sigma nu got kicked of some of the members started a chapter of the nu society which has some members from sigma nu in it but also has new members. they let them do it because they were not using the same ideals as sigma nu and they did not encounter the same problems because of it. I wanted to do something like that. I was not planing on doing the stuff that got us in trouble but wanted to rule out the people that started the problem. Which i think could be achievable. and i didnt want to "use" the service fraternity. I was planing on actually embracing it and being able to do something positive with the brothers that i had before. I dont see anything wrong with that.

33girl · #13 09-09-2008, 02:14 PM

Well here's the thing, if you would start a chapter of APO, all new chapters have to be co-ed. I didn't think you'd be down with that.

lucgreek · #14 09-09-2008, 08:00 PM

The bigger question you should be pondering is why your charter was pulled and what are ways to fix it. Going underground is the least of your worries.

tallgreekalum · #15 09-09-2008, 01:57 PM

The key question here is whether your school took action as well. If they did not, then you should be able to set up a local fraternity (using different name, ritual etc.) although some schools require NIC membership. After a number of years (ie, when any present Sigma Pis graduate), you would be free to affiliate with any NIC fraternity, if you so wished. Feel free to PM me if you want more advise)