Consequences for Recruitment Infractions

[33girl]

Social probation - no mixers or homecoming/greek week pairings. I think this is the only thing that would work.

The apology scenario you proposed just makes the NMs feel bad about their decision and want to quit, and they are pretty screwed if they do because they can't rush again for a year. The other chapters are going to know the apology is full of poo, and the sororities who violated the rules are just going to treat it as a big joke.

[StargazerLily]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The apology scenario you proposed just makes the NMs feel bad about their decision and want to quit, and they are pretty screwed if they do because they can't rush again for a year. The other chapters are going to know the apology is full of poo, and the sororities who violated the rules are just going to treat it as a big joke.

They wont treat it as a joke if their new members DO quit because those new members dont want to be associated with a group who wouldn't play by the rules. If enough of them quit, the chapter will realize they screwed up and their dirty ruishing bit them in the ass. Granted, some girls wont care, and wont quit - and that's fine. But it's going to suck for that chapter if the new members realize they could have had abetter greek experience if they had made the decision for themselves, rather than being influenced inappropriately.

How does the mixer thing work? I mean, how can you force them to not have mixers? They'll just end up having off campus "unofficial" parties anyway. and we dont pair up for homecomng anyway. Preventing them from participating in Greek Week or PowderPuff would be about the only thing I think would work...

[33girl]

But the thing is - the NMs going around with the sisters would make them feel like they were guilty, even if they're not. It's kind of like a scenario that was talked about on here - a chapter screwed up rush rules and gave out more bids than they should have. By the time the error was discovered, pledging was underway. It would have penalized the NMs even more than the sorority to take those bids back.

If you don't think the mixer thing will work (I wasn't sure what kind of campus you were at) then forbid them from Greek Week/Powder Puff participation.

[AZ-AlphaXi]

I like the idea of panhellenic programs .. and up the ante .. first infraction 1 program, 2nd infraction (cumulative from previous years) 2 programs, etc. ..

how about restrictions on the number of times the group can use university meeting facilities?

fines can be punitive if high enough and cumulative, but are, by the unanimous agreements (assuming these are NPC groups you're referencing), reserved for objective types of infractions, such as $50 for each ten minutes late with formal recruitment invitation lists.

[ComradesTrue]

I agree with the social probation.

Maybe it's just the cultures of schools that I am personally familiar with, but your idea of parading the guilty chapter around with new members (in the hopes that it would humiliate the NMs, have them drop, keep them from same infractions, etc) would never work. Ever.

My experience with chapters that dirty rush is that they are already chapters that PNMs come into Recruitment wanting to be a part of. These are typically chapters that can be very selective in who they choose, and therefore the PNMs who get bids are proud to be a part of the organization because of the name/status and really don't give a flying crap about rules having been followed in the process of getting them there.

Again, I recognize that chapters are different everywhere, so your campus culture may be different. But I still stand by the social probation... that would be much more punitive and thus ideally more likely to prevent the infractions.

[KSUViolet06]

I'm sorry, the apology thing is a bad idea. I mean, everyone would know it was fake and mandated by Panhellenic, and I don't agree with punishing the NMs for something they didn't even know was going on (if they wre dirty rushed I don't think it's their fault).

Fines have always worked here because the chapters aren't much bigger than 70 or 80 girls and that doesn't make for a huge chapter budget. No one got infractions, because no one wanted to be the one to cause their chapter to spend money that they may not have had.

If fines don't work for you,then prohibiting Greek Week/Powder Puff participation would be a good idea.