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08-26-2008, 11:51 PM
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I'm not surprised. I've expected many more attempts...Obama is the first African American to have such a platform. I'm sure there are a handful of naive and backward Americans who aren't quite happy about such a "change." Sad.
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08-27-2008, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pinksirfidel
I'm not surprised. I've expected many more attempts...Obama is the first African American to have such a platform. I'm sure there are a handful of naive and backward Americans who aren't quite happy about such a "change." Sad.
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Yep. I think this isn't the first or the last. This is just the first one at this stage in the game that has been exposed.
You're right, any kind of change poses a threat and sparks violence to curb the change and keep the status quo. Add an African American Presidential hopeful to the mix and it's multiplied.
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08-27-2008, 02:01 AM
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Yep. I think this isn't the first or the last. This is just the first one at this stage in the game that has been exposed.
You're right, any kind of change poses a threat and sparks violence to curb the change and keep the status quo. Add an African American Presidential hopeful to the mix and it's multiplied.
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because he's such a change from the status quo
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08-27-2008, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
because he's such a change from the status quo 
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you're right...I apologize for forgetting the abundance of black presidential hopefuls in this nation's history
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08-27-2008, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
because he's such a change from the status quo 
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I agree with you that his policies aren't all that much of a change - but as DSTChaos noted, there's only going to be one kind of "change" that matters in relation to these kind of attempts.
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08-27-2008, 02:56 PM
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I agree with you that his policies aren't all that much of a change - but as DSTChaos noted, there's only going to be one kind of "change" that matters in relation to these kind of attempts.
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Hardly. That's very simplistics. It's very easy (and more true than untrue) that they see his shitty policies rather than the color of his skin. It's not always that glamorous to use the race card, Chaos.
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08-27-2008, 02:59 PM
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Hardly. That's very simplistics. It's very easy (and more true than untrue) that they see his shitty policies rather than the color of his skin. It's not always that glamorous to use the race card, Chaos.
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Are you talking as far as assassination attempts? Because I think that his skin color will have more of an effect on any threats of violence against him.
If you're talking just disagreement with his policies, then I (as someone who disagrees with a large part of his platform) think it's another story, and would agree that it is more likely to go beyond his skin color.
I tend not to think of myself as a "simplistic" person, but hey, maybe that's a point where reasonable minds disagree.
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08-27-2008, 03:10 PM
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I tend not to think of myself as a "simplistic" person, but hey, maybe that's a point where reasonable minds disagree.
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I meant that it's simplistic to boil it down to race. Just because seemingly "racist redneck hicks" are attempting to assassinate him, it's not necessarily because of the color of his skin but could be due to his dangerous, disruptive, and embarrassing policies.
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08-27-2008, 04:51 PM
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You know, I really have no idea what EW's issue was. He says that Obama isn't a challenge to the status quo but then he acknowledges in his white supremacist post that Obama represents "all of those things."
I dunno what his point is.  I never said it was just about race. Although in my response to his post I only referenced race, my original post said that ADDING race to the equation heightens the potential for assassination attempts because this is a historic election in that regard.
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08-27-2008, 04:42 PM
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Hardly. That's very simplistics. It's very easy (and more true than untrue) that they see his shitty policies rather than the color of his skin. It's not always that glamorous to use the race card, Chaos.
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But it's always glamorous for you to be an idiot.
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