Out of state pnms

[irishpipes]

Very true. The chapter I advise at Arkansas has many, many Texas girls. Arkansas has some program that students from adjoining states get in-state tuition if they score a 25 (I think that's right) or more on their ACT.

I know in Tulsa we have a large number of kids going to Arkansas every year to take advantage of that program. The ones I know this year, without exception, have said they qualified for more scholarship money at Arkansas than they could get at OSU or OU.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Very true. The chapter I advise at Arkansas has many, many Texas girls. Arkansas has some program that students from adjoining states get in-state tuition if they score a 25 (I think that's right) or more on their ACT.

Really? That's a huge incentive to adjoining state out of state students.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by Zillini

Really? That's a huge incentive to adjoining state out of state students.

Especially ones affected by the top 10% rule at UT, who went to prestigious/rich high schools and are say in the top 15% of their class, and consequently can't get into UT.

[chioalum]

My daughter recently completed recruitement at Southern Miss. We are from Virginia. Most of the other out of state girls were from Alabama and Louisiana. When she entered recruitment she didn't know anyone attending USM and had only encoutered a few of the sorority members at tables during orientation. We worked to get her two recs from each sorority on campus. I am also a very active alum of Chi O so it was easier for me to obtain recs for my daughter as many of my friends are in the sororitites on campus. She was immediately cut after the first day by DG, Pi Beta Phi and Phi Mu. The next round of parties she attended KD, DDD, Chi O and ADPI, four houses for philanthropy day and attended the same round of four parties for skit day. She then was cut down to only one pref party. I just returned from moving the rest of her dorm essentials and she did tell me that most of the girls going through recruitment knew some of the sisters already in the house. She made it to one of the final four that is considered for taking most of the local girls. I was very proud of her accomplishments and although she has tried to remain positive with her ultimate choice, I think she is still dissapointed in the final outcome. She is giving it a try and for this I admire her. She also stated that some of the girls had attended some pre partiesin the spring. I think it was essential for her to have those recs otherwise she would have gotten cut harder from the beginning because they didn't know her. She was also very prepared with questions and apprpriate dress. Although I have heard Southern Miss isn't considered competitive. I felt in the end it was. I have a friend whose duaghter is atteding Alabama from Virginia she is a four time legacy to one chapter and her mom is on the executive board. I will keep you updated on this girls progress at Alabama.

[momof4girls]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Arkansas has some program that students from adjoining states get in-state tuition if they score a 25 (I think that's right) or more on their ACT.

Any Texas student that applies to a public state school in Oklahoma, Louisiana, or Arkansas can get their out-of-state tuition waved if they score at least 25 ACT or 1090 SAT. They must make their score prior to their freshman year starting. Once they start classes the out-of-state tuition rule becomes null and void.

[lawgal]

I think that it is great that they get such versatility but I am baffled as to the rationale. I always thought that the reason in state students got a tuition break was because their family's tax dollars supported the institution already.

[phimusam]

It is to almost any school's advantage to raise the quality of their student body. And I'm betting that the second 10% from many Texas high schools would raise the quality of any university's student body - including Texas and Texas A&M's student bodies. However, after filling up with the top 10% of any old high school in Texas, Texas and Texas A&M have no room for that second 10% from the Texas top high schools.

[gee_ess]

Originally Posted by lawgal

I think that it is great that they get such versatility but I am baffled as to the rationale. I always thought that the reason in state students got a tuition break was because their family's tax dollars supported the institution already.

I think the rationale is that those schools are working to entice the best and brightest to their state and, in doing so, hopefully keep those people in the state. Also, it is my understanding that at Arkansas, the top scoring Arkansas hs kids are highly rewarded for staying instate...

[Ladybugmom]

Originally Posted by momof4girls

Any Texas student that applies to a public state school in Oklahoma, Louisiana, or Arkansas can get their out-of-state tuition waved if they score at least 25 ACT or 1090 SAT. They must make their score prior to their freshman year starting. Once they start classes the out-of-state tuition rule becomes null and void.

I wish that were true for OU but it is not. In order to get an out of state tuition waiver, the student must make a 29-30 on the ACT. They have also raised thier minimum requirements for out of state students to a 26 ACT and a 3.5 GPA. (that's for automatic acceptance). At OSU, the 25 ACT score will get you an in state rate. I do not know about Arkansas or Louisiana.
Also, the out of state tuition for OU is about $25,000.00 per year, which is much higher than Bama, Ole Miss, KU. I believe that this is due to the high number of Texans applying to OU that can't get in to UT or A&M. OU has found out that Texans are willing to pay the out of state tuition so that thier kids can have the BIG college experience. It's a shame that Texas is losing so many capable students to these surrounding states, my daughter included.