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Old 08-12-2008, 06:33 PM
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I stick by my statements. I don't agree with throwing food at someone, but it just isn't reasonable to think that any harm is going to come from throwing water on someone. And I think it's stupid to condemn the fraternity for doing something that no reasonable person would expect to cause any harm.

To sit here going "OMG they threw cold water on him! How horrible! Etc., ect." is ridiculous.

I'm sorry to hear that the kid apparently had a preexisting medical condition which this aggravated, but if he didn't think to tell any one that it may happen or he didn't know it would happen himself, condemning someone for throwing water is sitting on a mighty damn high horse.
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:53 PM
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I stick by my statements. I don't agree with throwing food at someone, but it just isn't reasonable to think that any harm is going to come from throwing water on someone. And I think it's stupid to condemn the fraternity for doing something that no reasonable person would expect to cause any harm.

To sit here going "OMG they threw cold water on him! How horrible! Etc., ect." is ridiculous.

I'm sorry to hear that the kid apparently had a preexisting medical condition which this aggravated, but if he didn't think to tell any one that it may happen or he didn't know it would happen himself, condemning someone for throwing water is sitting on a mighty damn high horse.
and it is because some people just do not stop to think, understand or think they know everything, about everyone, everywhere that we as glos get into trouble.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:06 AM
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I stick by my statements. I don't agree with throwing food at someone, but it just isn't reasonable to think that any harm is going to come from throwing water on someone. And I think it's stupid to condemn the fraternity for doing something that no reasonable person would expect to cause any harm.

To sit here going "OMG they threw cold water on him! How horrible! Etc., ect." is ridiculous.

I'm sorry to hear that the kid apparently had a preexisting medical condition which this aggravated, but if he didn't think to tell any one that it may happen or he didn't know it would happen himself, condemning someone for throwing water is sitting on a mighty damn high horse.

I can see your point, but at the same time, what context would the person have brought up his preexisting condition in (prior to the alleged hazing incident)? I doubt that is something that would come up in random conversation. And given that peer pressure would likely be involved in the incident, if the person had mentioned his condition during the incident, I wonder if that would be enough to make the alleged hazers stop or just make them do worse because they thought he was making up excuses to stop.

Tinia2 makes a great point - lots of people have medical, physical, emotional, mental or other underlying issues that may be triggered by a number of things. Why take the chance at triggering something in someone you likely do not know that well?
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:19 PM
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from the schools newspaper which for us here in greek chat may just be as close to the matter as we can get. while the story is short, the comment following it is rather interesting:
http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/m...-3398250.shtml
http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/m...-3376903.shtml
http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/m...-1468059.shtml
An editorial piece from school paper:
http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/m...-3376914.shtml

and two stories about the chapter and glo involved. note the comment about rm insurance.
http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/m...-2261075.shtml
http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/m...-2258827.shtml

Duke's hazing policy
http://judicial.studentaffairs.duke....st/hazing.html
http://greek.studentaffairs.duke.edu..._students.html
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