Elizabeth Edwards is a better woman than I am

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Damn liberals and their infidelity.

Are we a bit miopic?

President Bill Clinton, Democrat
New Jersey Governor James McGreevey, Democrat
Idaho Senator Larry Craig, Republican
Louisiana Senator David Vitter, Republican
Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Democrat
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, Democrat
New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Republican
Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, Democrat

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Are we a bit miopic?

President Bill Clinton, Democrat
New Jersey Governor James McGreevey, Democrat
Idaho Senator Larry Craig, Republican
Louisiana Senator David Vitter, Republican
Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, Democrat
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, Democrat
New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Republican
Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, Democrat

Though not married at the time, Strom Thurmond had an illegitimate daughter as well, and I'm pretty sure he's not a liberal.

I'm not saying one group or the other does it more often, I think people in general are equally prone to infidelity regardless of their politics.

[nittanyalum]

Oh, this is definitely a "both sides of the aisle are guilty" situation. This, to me, is not about politics whatsoever it's about MEN and making the right decisions in your life.

I firmly believe that men CAN keep it in their pants and stay faithful regardless of temptation WHEN THEY WANT TO. I had the impression John Edwards was that kind of guy. The way he always spoke about and doted on Elizabeth and seemed so geared toward his family, he just didn't seem like the type to "stray". And especially with what they've been through in losing their oldest son, her ongoing battles with cancer (oh, and his running for the nation's highest office - duh, idiot!) I just wouldn't have guessed he'd break that trust and commitment.

I guess it just goes to show that you just never know.... (*eyes husband suspiciously over the top of her laptop* )

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Oh, this is definitely a "both sides of the aisle are guilty" situation. This, to me, is not about politics whatsoever it's about MEN and making the right decisions in your life.

I firmly believe that men CAN keep it in their pants and stay faithful regardless of temptation WHEN THEY WANT TO. I had the impression John Edwards was that kind of guy. The way he always spoke about and doted on Elizabeth and seemed so geared toward his family, he just didn't seem like the type to "stray". And especially with what they've been through in losing their oldest son, her ongoing battles with cancer (oh, and his running for the nation's highest office - duh, idiot!) I just wouldn't have guessed he'd break that trust and commitment.

I guess it just goes to show that you just never know.... (*eyes husband suspiciously over the top of her laptop* )

I was surprised at Edwards, too. I usually think he's a cutie but he's been looking ROUGH since this story broke.

I agree with everything you said 100%. It bothers me that people pretend that men can't help themselves, regardless of who they are. Men CAN and some DO control themselves. I think that PEOPLE should be able to control themselves.

[SWTXBelle]

Infidelity knows no boundaries - it can be found in every racial, religious, political and every other kind of group you can name.

But cheating on your cancer-stricken wife? I'm doubly glad he didn't become the nominee. And I refuse to give politicans a pass - they are still scum if they do it.

[honeychile]

Cheating on your wife while she's going through cancer treatments is a special kind of horrible. I couldn't even understand why he was in the race with Elizabeth having a relapse.

Originally Posted by honeychile

Cheating on your wife while she's going through cancer treatments is a special kind of horrible. I couldn't even understand why he was in the race with Elizabeth having a relapse.

AMEN! you know i really liked him/them a lot. NOW i have lost all respect for him doing this while she relapsed......I mean how low can one be to do that to your ailing wife but your wife in general! Creep! good thing he didnt make it to this point in time in the campaign for president,,,proberly couldn't get elected dog catcher now if he even tried.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

But cheating on your cancer-stricken wife? I'm doubly glad he didn't become the nominee. And I refuse to give politicans a pass - they are still scum if they do it.

I assume you're not supporting the guy he would have been running against if he had been the nominee, then?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I assume you're not supporting the guy he would have been running against if he had been the nominee, then?

Yes, he's gotten shockingly little judgment for that part of his life, he's a dirtbag too.

It seems that McCain, who had once revealed to fellow prisoners of war in Vietnam that he wanted to be president, was restless in 1979. As Navy liaison to the Senate, he didn't have the career momentum he had counted on to propel him into an admiralty and on to the White House. He was 42, mired in stifling ordinariness. (Civilians call it "midlife crisis.")

But McCain was making bold career moves on the home front, hotly pursuing a 25-year-old blond from a wealthy Arizona family -- while married. Carol, his wife at the time, had once been quite a babe herself apparently, until a near-fatal car accident (while her husband was in Vietnam) left her 4 inches shorter, overweight and on crutches. The couple had three children, whom Carol cared for alone while her husband was in Vietnamese prisons.

McCain's strategy worked perfectly: After chasing Cindy Hensley around the country for six months, he closed the deal late in the year, had a divorce by February and was married to Hensley shortly thereafter. Bingo! McCain was a candidate for Congress by early 1982, his coffers full, his home in the proper Arizona district purchased.

The story is compelling -- and repellent -- for a lot of reasons. And it raises some familiar questions. We have to wonder why Americans are able to excoriate a presidential candidate (or president) who cheats on his wife but accept one who did the same thing with the concentration and energy of a military strategist. Is it because McCain didn't get caught? Is it because he married his mistress? At this point, after much navel- and penis-gazing, it seems like a moot question, if only for reasons of sheer exhaustion.

http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature...rol/index.html

[SWTXBelle]

Democrats? Republicans?
I no longer have a dog in that fight.
I will be voting third party - haven't decided which.

But yes, I did think Edwards was super-sleazy, although I couldn't put my finger on why during the campaign. It might be the Ken-like hairstyle (the Kens with the plastic hair, not the ones with the "real" hair.)

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

But yes, I did think Edwards was super-sleazy, although I couldn't put my finger on why during the campaign. It might be the Ken-like hairstyle (the Kens with the plastic hair, not the ones with the "real" hair.)

I can see why he comes off that way, but sleazy has never been his reputation. I think most people who know him around here have been genuinely surprised.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Yes, he's gotten shockingly little judgment for that part of his life, he's a dirtbag too.

And there were other affairs before Cindy.