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Old 08-04-2008, 08:41 PM
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Yes, we have heard this one before. It would be inhumane. Yadda yadda yadda. Was it uncruel and usual what you did to your victim?
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Old 08-04-2008, 09:00 PM
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Yes, we have heard this one before. It would be inhumane. Yadda yadda yadda. Was it uncruel and usual what you did to your victim?
That was along the lines of my thinking.

Whatever he did to whoever else obviously wasn't a pleasant experience... because it got him on death row... why again do we owe him one?

Is he just trying to get out of it or something by saying "well, sorry guys! I know I was sentenced to die for raping & murdering people, but I'm too big! I'll just hang out here for 40 more years until I die naturally!"
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Old 08-04-2008, 09:22 PM
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Yes, we have heard this one before. It would be inhumane. Yadda yadda yadda. Was it uncruel and usual what you did to your victim?
I see your point. And yeah, it was beyond cruel and inhumane what he did to his victims.

That doesn't change the fact that the Founding Fathers, following developments in English law, believed it was important to prohibit cruel and unusual punishment. It also doesn't change that many courts have found lethal injection to violate this provision if there is not adequate guarantee of unconciousness prior to execution. While it has upheld lethal injection in general, the Supreme Court has still left open the possibility that in some instances, lethal injection could violate the Eighth Amendment.

And sure he's trying to get out of it.
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Old 08-04-2008, 10:43 PM
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I see your point. And yeah, it was beyond cruel and inhumane what he did to his victims.

That doesn't change the fact that the Founding Fathers, following developments in English law, believed it was important to prohibit cruel and unusual punishment. It also doesn't change that many courts have found lethal injection to violate this provision if there is not adequate guarantee of unconciousness prior to execution. While it has upheld lethal injection in general, the Supreme Court has still left open the possibility that in some instances, lethal injection could violate the Eighth Amendment.

And sure he's trying to get out of it.
Exactly - we can go back and forth about the moral issues involved, but this is the major point. I'm guessing that this situation, however self-induced, would be one of those situations where it would be "cruel and unusual."

It doesn't excuse what he did, but it's the reality of the law.
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