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08-04-2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by la_boca_loca
Further, it is a gross abuse of the civil justice system for her to file suit just because SHE is not satisfied with the sentence.
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How is that a gross abuse of the civil justice system?
And how are you connected with the defendants? ('Cause I'm betting that you are.)
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08-04-2008, 09:23 PM
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How is that a gross abuse of the civil justice system?
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Judges determine what is just and ideally, mete out punishment accordingly. The students will not pay anything in this case, the national fraternity will. Tell me then, how is this case about anything other than extracting money from the deepest pocket?
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And how are you connected with the defendants? ('Cause I'm betting that you are.)
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I'll take that bet. Even if I did know them or was otherwise connected, how would these messages posted under an anonymous name benefit the students or myself? Ya' didn't think about that one, did ya'?
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08-04-2008, 10:23 PM
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].[/COLOR] Tell me then, how is this case about anything other than extracting money from the deepest pocket? Has the fraternity been named in the suit? Maybe I missed that . . . and as to the answer to your question, I think my fellow GCers have covered this.
I'll take that bet. Even if I did know them or was otherwise connected, how would these messages posted under an anonymous name benefit the students or myself? Ya' didn't think about that one, did ya'?
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Did anyone say anything about benefiting anyone?
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08-04-2008, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
Has the fraternity been named in the suit? Maybe I missed that . . .
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Yeah. You missed that.
Case Description
Case ID: 2008CA022597XXXXMB
Case Caption: LAUREN HIGHLEY V BEN FARIAS, KYLE KRAFT, AND DELTA ZETA OF DELTA TAU DELTA, INC.
Division:  AB - GERBER
Filing Date:  Tuesday , July 29th, 2008
Court:  CA - CIRCUIT CIVIL
Location:  MB - MAIN BRANCH
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08-04-2008, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by la_boca_loca
Yeah. You missed that.
Case Description
Case ID: 2008CA022597XXXXMB
Case Caption: LAUREN HIGHLEY V BEN FARIAS, KYLE KRAFT, AND DELTA ZETA OF DELTA TAU DELTA, INC.
Division:  AB - GERBER
Filing Date:  Tuesday , July 29th, 2008
Court:  CA - CIRCUIT CIVIL
Location:  MB - MAIN BRANCH
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Shouldn't you be crawling back under a blanket at the Delt house or something?
eta - and getting back to the idea of risk management, do many fraternities have house moms or live-in advisors/help? What could a fraternity do to avoid this kind of liability? (Other than not pledge idiots . . .)
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08-04-2008, 11:18 PM
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Shouldn't you be crawling back under a blanket at the Delt house or something? 
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You don't have a cogent thought so you resort to a statement like that? That really exemplifies the narrow limits of your intellectual capacity.
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08-05-2008, 10:15 AM
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You don't have a cogent thought so you resort to a statement like that? That really exemplifies the narrow limits of your intellectual capacity.
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Um, it's a joke. My cogent thought was a joke. I even put a smilie on it so someone of the limited "intellectual capacity" you have demonstrated could understand that. Sorry I overestimated you. So I stand corrected - shouldn't you be crawling back under your rock?
And I must now go sob into my pillow because my intellectual capacity has been insulted by someone on the internet. Boo hoo.
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08-05-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by la_boca_loca
Yeah. You missed that.
Case Description
Case ID: 2008CA022597XXXXMB
Case Caption: LAUREN HIGHLEY V BEN FARIAS, KYLE KRAFT, AND DELTA ZETA OF DELTA TAU DELTA, INC. Division:  AB - GERBER
Filing Date:  Tuesday , July 29th, 2008
Court:  CA - CIRCUIT CIVIL
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Just for the sake of clarity, it appears to me that the suit is against the two members and the chapter, not the fraternity.
Let's remember that there's a difference that we, as members of Greek Letter Organizations, all should understand.
Right?
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08-04-2008, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by la_boca_loca
Judges determine what is just and ideally, mete out punishment accordingly. The students will not pay anything in this case, the national fraternity will. Tell me then, how is this case about anything other than extracting money from the deepest pocket?
I'll take that bet. Even if I did know them or was otherwise connected, how would these messages posted under an anonymous name benefit the students or myself? Ya' didn't think about that one, did ya'?
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and that is why it is in the rm section rather than say chat or news. we all get hurt by actions like this. take the time and read the other threads in this section. and if you have a problem with deepest pockets in this case, i suggest you spend some time in a civil court room in any major city. or as it has been pointed out already is your problem with the us legal system only this case.
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08-04-2008, 11:22 PM
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is your problem with the us legal system only this case.
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My problem is with any person who has not suffered an actual loss, nor a loss which can be rationally remedied with $$, bringing a lawsuit. Mr. Auerbacher knows the students can't pay. So he'll just ruin their lives while he hopes to impute their liability to the deeper pocket.
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08-04-2008, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by la_boca_loca
My problem is with any person who has not suffered an actual loss, nor a loss which can be rationally remedied with $$, bringing a lawsuit. Mr. Auerbacher knows the students can't pay. So he'll just ruin their lives while he hopes to impute their liability to the deeper pocket.
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so you have a problem with the entire us civil court system.
well, your posting here is just not going to change anything at all. and will not do anything for your friends, their actions and deeds, their case and their total lack of judgment and respect. and as much as i hate to repeat myself, make the effort to read the other threads in rm section. this case and those already brought up are only a very small part of the overall activities in state civil courts. however, they are a major part of what affects and effects us.
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08-05-2008, 12:59 AM
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so you have a problem with the entire us civil court system.
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I never said nor implied that. Did I not make myself clear about my feelings on this particular case? My strong opinion about this case is not an indictment of the entire system.
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08-05-2008, 08:01 AM
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I never said nor implied that. Did I not make myself clear about my feelings on this particular case? My strong opinion about this case is not an indictment of the entire system.
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No, but your comments about this case show a lack of understanding of the entire system.
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08-04-2008, 11:38 PM
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Judges determine what is just and ideally, mete out punishment accordingly. The students will not pay anything in this case, the national fraternity will. Tell me then, how is this case about anything other than extracting money from the deepest pocket?
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You keep leaving juries out of the equation.
I never said that the case wasn't just about money. It might be, it might be about revenge, it might be about all kinds of things. I merely questioned your suggestion that it is a gross abuse of the civil justice system for the victim to sue because she thought a criminal verdict was too lenient. I've been practicing law long enough to tell that you talking out of personal interest and bias, not any actual sense of or understanding of jurisprudence.
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I'll take that bet. Even if I did know them or was otherwise connected, how would these messages posted under an anonymous name benefit the students or myself? Ya' didn't think about that one, did ya'?
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Oooooo. Caught me in my own trap. Drat the anonymous nature of teh interwebs.
No I didn't think about that because I couldn't care less about that. Like I said, I was just noticing that your posts suggest a strong personal, rather than academic or theoretical, interest. You write, and argue, like someone who has a dog in the fight. That is all.
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08-05-2008, 10:21 AM
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I've been practicing law long enough to tell that you talking out of personal interest and bias, not any actual sense of or understanding of jurisprudence.
Oooooo. Caught me in my own trap. Drat the anonymous nature of teh interwebs.
No I didn't think about that because I couldn't care less about that. Like I said, I was just noticing that your posts suggest a strong personal, rather than academic or theoretical, interest. You write, and argue, like someone who has a dog in the fight. That is all.
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Now, now, MC, it's not like this gentleman has signed on to GC ONLY to post in this thread . . .oh, wait . . .
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