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Old 08-03-2008, 07:41 AM
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and now they are going after the new york times. this, out of all the junk mccains champaign has pulled this week alone, almost just about makes some sense and as the story shows could have some benefit to them in some areas or quarters:
http://news.aol.com/elections/articl...970x1200352336
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:14 AM
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Obama's shift on drilling?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._drilling.html

I hate posting this stuff, because these types of story are useless without context. But, I'm kind of sick of this ridiculous idea that McCain is shifting more or less than Obama on issues.

I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:24 AM
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Obama's shift on drilling?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._drilling.html

I hate posting this stuff, because these types of story are useless without context. But, I'm kind of sick of this ridiculous idea that McCain is shifting more or less than Obama on issues.

I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.
i agree with you ksgkid. this from factcheck.org, while not about this story, is about drilling and may give some context and background to it. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2..._nonsense.html and
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ut_energy.html
after this weekend, factcheck and other sites like it will not doubt have updates sometime this upcoming week.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:25 AM
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I'm tired of politics becoming this giant game of "gotcha!" where everyone waits to jump on a candidate if he/she misspeaks, changes his/her mind, or seems to "flip/flop". I'm certainly all for holding candidates accountable, but it is being taken to an extreme.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:29 AM
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I'm tired of politics becoming this giant game of "gotcha!" where everyone waits to jump on a candidate if he/she misspeaks, changes his/her mind, or seems to "flip/flop". I'm certainly all for holding candidates accountable, but it is being taken to an extreme.
This is just a natural product of a longer election cycle, and a media that covers every single word.

I love politics, and find all this talk very interesting, but I agree that it gets to be a bit much.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:32 AM
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Obama's shift on drilling?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._drilling.html

I hate posting this stuff, because these types of story are useless without context. But, I'm kind of sick of this ridiculous idea that McCain is shifting more or less than Obama on issues.

I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.
This is an Obama-fan/anti-McCain thread. Stop leveling the field.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:03 PM
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I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.
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I'm tired of politics becoming this giant game of "gotcha!" where everyone waits to jump on a candidate if he/she misspeaks, changes his/her mind, or seems to "flip/flop". I'm certainly all for holding candidates accountable, but it is being taken to an extreme.
And Amen.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:07 PM
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This is an Obama-fan/anti-McCain thread. Stop leveling the field.
Haha, sorry about that; I am, after all, a great thread-killer (threads seem to die out after I post).
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:08 PM
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Haha, sorry about that; I am, after all, a great thread-killer (threads seem to die out after I post).
It has withstood the both of us. It's here to stay.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:10 PM
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It has withstood the both of us. It's here to stay.
God help us. (Sorry, I don't use little smilies -- but if I did, there would be one here)
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:18 PM
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God help us. (Sorry, I don't use little smilies -- but if I did, there would be one here)
LOL. Isn't it funny that it's gotten easier to convey and grasp sarcasm and humor with a smiley? The internet is evil.

Oh yeah...back to McCain's flip flops. Much better than Crocs.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:41 PM
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sarcasm and humor with a smiley? The internet is evil.
Sarcasm on GC? Say it ain't so!

(Hey! Crocs are made by a Colorado company and help our economy. Lay off!) (Imagine a little smilie here)
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:53 PM
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Sarcasm on GC? Say it ain't so!

(Hey! Crocs are made by a Colorado company and help our economy. Lay off!)
I have forced smilies upon you. Thank me later.

I wonder what the candidates think about Crocs? Do they wear them? If not, what is that saying about their stance on the economy?

On another note, whoa at international Crocs: http://www.crocs.com/international/
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:04 PM
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I have forced smilies upon you. Thank me later.
Getting back to the thread, maybe I'll have to flip/flop on the use of smilies.

On the other hand, I'd rather use Crocks than flip/flops.

(Actually, I don't wear either)

You can all groan now.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:55 AM
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this sort of falls into this thread. seems as if mccains campaign got a supporter upset with him as a result of last weeks ad with hilton and obama. ie the hilton family.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080803/...n_hilton_s_mom

added edit-full story from original site
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_116625.html
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