academic conflicts during rush

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by SigKapSweetie

When UF had rush during school (this is no longer the case, thank heaven!), it was during drop/add week. Although girls were encouraged to go to class, no one did; they knew full well how competitive rush was, and that they'd be SOL if they missed parties to go to class. Because it was drop/add week, the professors didn't care anyway, since they'd never know if you just added the class after that first lecture.

Wouldn't they just be able to check their rosters and figure this out? Usually professors have to sign forms to allow people to add anyway (I guess this could vary with university).

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

Wouldn't they just be able to check their rosters and figure this out? Usually professors have to sign forms to allow people to add anyway (I guess this could vary with university).

A prof would have to actually care about when you added the class to take the time to check the roster. The only time that I had to have a teacher sign a form is when I was crashing a class. Meaning, the class was already full but if there were extra seats available the teacher could chose to add more students.

[TSteven]

At The University of Kentucky, "drop/add" was changed to "add/drop". The idea behind the name change being that you *added* a class before *dropping* one. As such, it was the norm to be signed up for a class yet miss the first one or two while you were trying to add another (different) class. So you would be on the roll but not present the first one or two classes (depending on when they met). And if you were unable to add the other class, then you kept the class (the one you missed) on your schedule. Basically, the first three days (UK starts classes on a Wednesday), attendance and assignments were minimal for many of the 101 (i.e. undergrad) type classes.

[LucyAnne17]

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[SigKapSweetie]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

Wouldn't they just be able to check their rosters and figure this out? Usually professors have to sign forms to allow people to add anyway (I guess this could vary with university).

Most freshman classes have a few hundred people in them, and for the smaller lab/discussion sections, drop/add changes the composition by nearly half during that first week - people jockeying for better times, different days, etc. Scheduling is all online, done by students themselves, and during the drop/add period you don't need anyone's permission to change classes. That would only be an issue if you were trying to drop or add after the online registration (and official drop/add period) ended.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by SigKapSweetie

Most freshman classes have a few hundred people in them, and for the smaller lab/discussion sections, drop/add changes the composition by nearly half during that first week - people jockeying for better times, different days, etc. Scheduling is all online, done by students themselves, and during the drop/add period you don't need anyone's permission to change classes. That would only be an issue if you were trying to drop or add after the online registration (and official drop/add period) ended.

Yes, I teach these classes. A lot of times, even in the big freshmen sections, you DO need permission if the class fills up. That's not always the case... I'm trying to remember if we always had to get permission at W&L. I never dropped or added a class there. I think we may have had to get permission but of course that's a small school situation.

Let's just say from my perspective as a instructor of discussion sections, etc., I have a LOT more idea what's really going on with students dropping/adding than students seem to think I do. I pretty much know who added in late vs. who just skips class. The point's moot at UT since rush is before classes start... BUT

Every instructor I know at UT prints out their roster for the first day of class, whether they take roll or not. They will know if the roster changes vs. if you skip. Unless they never take roll. But if schools have photo rosters like UT they'll pretty soon figure out which faces they don't recognize from the roll. Again, not related to missing just once for recruitment. But don't underestimate the intelligence/preparation of your instructors.

[SigKapSweetie]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

But don't underestimate the intelligence/preparation of your instructors.

I honestly never believed that any of my professors ever cared one whit about whether or not we showed up during drop/add. We certainly never did anything that week, in deference to the 1.5 billion students who'd be coming or leaving before the next week. Even without rush, it was a decent week to skip class.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by SigKapSweetie

I honestly never believed that any of my professors ever cared one whit about whether or not we showed up during drop/add. We certainly never did anything that week, in deference to the 1.5 billion students who'd be coming or leaving before the next week. Even without rush, it was a decent week to skip class.

As I always say, don't gamble if you can't afford to lose.

Many of my students were shocked to discover that I not only took attendance, but I had no "decent week"s to skip - I had them working every class period. Part of their grade was made up of in-class quizzes and assignments which you could not make up if you skipped. And yes, I checked to see when students joined the class so I could determine whether or not that zero for the first quiz would count against them - obviously, if you had not registered for the class I wouldn't include that first week's grades. You just shouldn't ASSUME . . .

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by SigKapSweetie

I honestly never believed that any of my professors ever cared one whit about whether or not we showed up during drop/add. We certainly never did anything that week, in deference to the 1.5 billion students who'd be coming or leaving before the next week. Even without rush, it was a decent week to skip class.

Ha. OK, think that.