Not a Gaffe: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of Iraq

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

When you're running as the foreign policy/military candidate, you need to have your facts straight.

. . . and when you're the "Change" candidate, you need to stick to your promise to rely on public funding (and spending limits) like you promised you would.

See how easy this is? How inane. It won't "shake up" anything, just like Obama's insipid reasoning for strategically sticking to private funds didn't "shake up" his campaign.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

It won't "shake up" anything, just like Obama's insipid reasoning for strategically sticking to private funds didn't "shake up" his campaign.

Oh, but it did.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Oh, but it did.

OK - explain how . . . since his polling numbers weren't affected, it made few if any national headlines, and it is all but forgotten in the minds of 90+% of voters.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

OK - explain how . . . since his polling numbers weren't affected, it made few if any national headlines, and it is all but forgotten in the minds of 90+% of voters.

Bump for Jeni - seriously, I'm curious about this, since I feel like it is exactly the same thing.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Bump for Jeni - seriously, I'm curious about this, since I feel like it is exactly the same thing.

Woops! Sorry about that. Obama's numbers have been declining a bit and he has been receiving more and more negative publicity. His misstatements are not going unnoticed.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Woops! Sorry about that. Obama's numbers have been declining a bit and he has been receiving more and more negative publicity. His misstatements are not going unnoticed.

Correlation does not equal causation, and this still does not explain the specific link I questioned earlier, although I see what you're saying - this seems a bit dismissive, to be honest.

Besides this, I think there is a sea of difference between "declining a bit" and "shake up his campaign's foundation" (which is how you described it). Negative publicity could be purely based on the natural publicity (or smear) push by the opposition at this point in the election cycle, and I see no evidence that his recanting on his promise to participate in the publicly-funded campaign finance program has had any effect whatsoever or that the average person even a.) knows it happened or b.) what it means as far as credibility or strategy.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Besides this, I think there is a sea of difference between "declining a bit" and "shake up his campaign's foundation" (which is how you described it).

I said shake up his campaign's foundation "a bit." McCain has been hitting Obama harder than ever to illustrate the differences between their military/foreign relations experience. There wouldn't be as great a need to do so if he'd had a clean run on his military/foreign relations experience. He has had to overcompensate for the blunders he's made in speaking on issues he should know about.

As I mentioned, I don't see his blunders disqualifying him or changing the way his supporters view him, but they do cause problems for the campaign and the way he markets himself.

Negative publicity could be purely based on the natural publicity (or smear) push by the opposition at this point in the election cycle, and I see no evidence that his recanting on his promise to participate in the publicly-funded campaign finance program has had any effect whatsoever or that the average person even a.) knows it happened or b.) what it means as far as credibility or strategy.

Obama is no longer that far ahead of McCain in the polls despite a healthy headstart. You don't think that has anything to do with the things Obama has said and done?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Woops! Sorry about that. Obama's numbers have been declining a bit and he has been receiving more and more negative publicity. His misstatements are not going unnoticed.

PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama's lead over John McCain, having reached a nine percentage point margin a few days ago, has been reduced for the second Gallup report in a row, and is now at a 6-point, 47% to 41%, margin among registered voters in Gallup Poll Daily tracking conducted July 26-28.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109138/Ga...McCain-41.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- Since Barack Obama clinched the Democratic nomination and moved into a front-running position for the general presidential election in early June, he has seen his standing versus John McCain improve among voters in red states, blue states, and competitive (or purple) states. Obama has gained at least 3 points in the Obama-McCain gap in all three state groupings compared with voter sentiments in March through May.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109036/Ob...ince-June.aspx