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07-20-2008, 04:07 PM
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The playing field is never level, nor should it be.
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Ouch
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07-20-2008, 04:12 PM
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Life is not fair. The playing field is never level, nor should it be.
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im gonna make a HUGE assumption based on your posts, but methinks that you make this statement because you are on the side of the field where it works in your favor, and any "leveling" thereof would threaten your societal position.
its similar to people who say they are against affirmative action in universities.
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Do you know people? Have you interacted with them? Because this is pretty standard no-brainer stuff. -33girl
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07-20-2008, 05:42 PM
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oooooooooooo...donchugo talkinto hurrrr like dat!!!! Whut we gondoifn she get madntell bossman on us?!?!?!?!?!
Praise the God for an unlevel playing field. America wouldn't be America without it. And God bless America.
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07-20-2008, 05:58 PM
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oooooooooooo...donchugo talkinto hurrrr like dat!!!! Whut we gondoifn she get madntell bossman on us?!?!?!?!?!
Praise the God for an unlevel playing field. America wouldn't be America without it. And God bless America.
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team DSTCHAOS.
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07-20-2008, 07:35 PM
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Life is not fair. The playing field is never level, nor should it be.
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On some level, I see what you're saying. I grew up in a household where there wasn't much money, and I've had to work my tail off for everything I've gotten, including paying for college (earning lots of scholarship and paying out of pocket), and doing the same thing through law school.
At the same time - that's one heck of an over-generalization you're making. As a white male, I know I've had a TON of advantages that people of other races and backgrounds don't enjoy. To say that the playing field should never be "level" implies that these racial and cultural inequalities, still existing today, are OK.
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07-21-2008, 02:32 PM
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KSigkid:
You get much respect for being a hardworker but also acknowledging that there is white privilege and male privilege that have helped you along the way in certain contexts.
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07-22-2008, 04:05 PM
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KSigkid:
You get much respect for being a hardworker but also acknowledging that there is white privilege and male privilege that have helped you along the way in certain contexts.
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So, I am amazed that a white person who supposedly is no way construed as being privileged is that much different from anyone who is poor?
Hell, I grew up much poorer than some of you!
So, I do not agree with a candidate then I am racist?
I do have not have the spelling ajendas or typing skills then I am wrong and some decide they want to make fun of me in their snarky comments as they do to new members.
So DSTCHOAS, does this make you and Sunsuert feel and be a better person?
Your belittleing of people on G C show the type of people you really are!
Oh, prove me wrong and show me how much you and others are so much better?
I feel that some of you have ruined G C with your snarky and small mined comments! How may people have you run off?
Oh, I am sure I will catch hell about this post, but you know what I do not care!
You do it to yourselves.
Oh, did I spell everything to everyones expectations?
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07-22-2008, 04:30 PM
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So, I am amazed that a white person who supposedly is no way construed as being privileged is that much different from anyone who is poor?
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Not even sure what that means - DSTChaos was just agreeing with me that white males have it pretty good in this country, and that, despite some of the things I've had to work through, I at least have not had to battle through any barriers based on my race or sex.
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Hell, I grew up much poorer than some of you!
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This isn't a contest as to who is the poorest. This thread isn't about that.
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So, I do not agree with a candidate then I am racist?
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No - if people think you're a racist, it's because of comments you made in other threads, including the "N-Land" comment in the recently closed thread in this forum. Maybe you don't give your posts proper context, maybe you just post stream of conscience, who knows.
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I do have not have the spelling ajendas or typing skills then I am wrong and some decide they want to make fun of me in their snarky comments as they do to new members.
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People make comments because they can't understand you, and if they can't understand you, they're not going to take your argument seriously.
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So DSTCHOAS, does this make you and Sunsuert feel and be a better person?
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I wouldn't think so - they both seem to be pretty decent people in how they treat others on the board. I don't know either of them in real life, but neither has done anything to make me or anyone else think that they're bad people.
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Your belittleing of people on G C show the type of people you really are!
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So, do your comments show how you really are?
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Oh, prove me wrong and show me how much you and others are so much better? 
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No one is saying they're any better than you; they're just disagreeing with your comments, and the things you post on the board.
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I feel that some of you have ruined G C with your snarky and small mined comments! How may people have you run off?
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And some people feel that your comments and posts have driven others off the board, particularly when you remained a moderator, despite your transgressions.
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Oh, I am sure I will catch hell about this post, but you know what I do not care!
You do it to yourselves.
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You yourself bring on a lot of the criticism you get. Your posts can be incomprehensible at times, and when they are understandable, you have a tendency to make racist and/or bigoted remarks. Those comments will elicit reactions from people, most of them negative.
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Oh, did I spell everything to everyones expectations? 
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Not really, but that's besides the point. Everyone makes the occasional spelling mistake, but you just happen to make many more of them.
Look, you may be a great guy in real life, who has done a lot of wonderful things for Lambda Chi. It sounds like you have given a lot back to your fraternity, and that's admirable. But, many of the posts you have made on this board don't speak so well of you. You should probably just think more carefully before you post things, so as not to elicit anger from others.
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07-22-2008, 04:43 PM
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So, I am amazed that a white person who supposedly is no way construed as being privileged is that much different from anyone who is poor?
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I stopped reading here because I know that the more you type the dumber you type.
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07-22-2008, 04:51 PM
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I stopped reading here because I know that the more you type the dumber you type.
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Haha, trying to say I went a little overboard in my response...
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07-22-2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
So, I am amazed that a white person who supposedly is no way construed as being privileged is that much different from anyone who is poor?
Hell, I grew up much poorer than some of you!
So, I do not agree with a candidate then I am racist?
I do have not have the spelling ajendas or typing skills then I am wrong and some decide they want to make fun of me in their snarky comments as they do to new members.
So DSTCHOAS, does this make you and Sunsuert feel and be a better person?
Your belittleing of people on G C show the type of people you really are!
Oh, prove me wrong and show me how much you and others are so much better?
I feel that some of you have ruined G C with your snarky and small mined comments! How may people have you run off?
Oh, I am sure I will catch hell about this post, but you know what I do not care!
You do it to yourselves.
Oh, did I spell everything to everyones expectations? 
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Why...just why.
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07-22-2008, 05:09 PM
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I would just like to ask people to not hold Tom's posts against John McCain. Thank you.
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07-22-2008, 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Earp
So, I am amazed that a white person who supposedly is no way construed as being privileged is that much different from anyone who is poor?
Hell, I grew up much poorer than some of you!
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Did you grow up much blacker, too?
Because the point is that no matter how poor, opportunities exist for whites that aren't there for nonwhites. This made it easier for you to overcome your poverty (but apparently not the attendant values of poor white Americans).
Seriously, this isn't that hard, Tom. Your outrage is misplaced, even in C-Land.
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07-22-2008, 05:54 PM
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Not even sure what that means - DSTChaos was just agreeing with me that white males have it pretty good in this country, and that, despite some of the things I've had to work through, I at least have not had to battle through any barriers based on my race or sex.
This isn't a contest as to who is the poorest. This thread isn't about that.
No - if people think you're a racist, it's because of comments you made in other threads, including the "N-Land" comment in the recently closed thread in this forum. Maybe you don't give your posts proper context, maybe you just post stream of conscience, who knows.
People make comments because they can't understand you, and if they can't understand you, they're not going to take your argument seriously.
I wouldn't think so - they both seem to be pretty decent people in how they treat others on the board. I don't know either of them in real life, but neither has done anything to make me or anyone else think that they're bad people.
So, do your comments show how you really are?
No one is saying they're any better than you; they're just disagreeing with your comments, and the things you post on the board.
And some people feel that your comments and posts have driven others off the board, particularly when you remained a moderator, despite your transgressions.
You yourself bring on a lot of the criticism you get. Your posts can be incomprehensible at times, and when they are understandable, you have a tendency to make racist and/or bigoted remarks. Those comments will elicit reactions from people, most of them negative.
Not really, but that's besides the point. Everyone makes the occasional spelling mistake, but you just happen to make many more of them.
Look, you may be a great guy in real life, who has done a lot of wonderful things for Lambda Chi. It sounds like you have given a lot back to your fraternity, and that's admirable. But, many of the posts you have made on this board don't speak so well of you. You should probably just think more carefully before you post things, so as not to elicit anger from others.
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Maybe you are correct and no matter what you say, ,I will get abject comments.
I have my beleiefs no matter what! You and others have yours!
But to belittle others is supposedly correct.?
Whether it be my spelling or context is not right to some no matter whom they are and what is dissapointing is that you are one.
If You A--w----s do not cazre for my spelling or typing, that is the least of my problems as it should be yours instead of the BS that some want to post about and show asses of stupididity!
Actually who in the heck really cares???
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07-22-2008, 05:55 PM
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im gonna make a HUGE assumption based on your posts, but methinks that you make this statement because you are on the side of the field where it works in your favor, and any "leveling" thereof would threaten your societal position.
its similar to people who say they are against affirmative action in universities.
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Well, then you didn't read the part that said I'd probably be helped by some of these "leveling" policies. They feel dishonest to me. I prefer to know I earned my way - and if I have to work harder than the next guy to do so, so be it.
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