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07-16-2008, 08:52 PM
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Sometimes it is just playing the dozens and "jonin'". Most of us don't really have any ill will or negativity against other organizations. How people feel about individual members is their business.
Idunno. You say "almost never" but I think it's moreso passive aggressiveness on many of you all's parts. I read threads on GC and wish that people would sometimes just say what they mean and mean what they say. Afterall, the Private Message Culture on GC is active and some of you all are saying stuff off the board. But, some of you obviously try way too hard to play nice on the boards so people can think highly of you and your org and/or a thread won't get closed. Then we have "those" threads that people call trainwrecks because the NPC and IFC(?) orgs are going at it in some way--over ranking or however you all dress it up.
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Well, one of the things that I think is different is that NPHCs seem to have national reputations, types (or stereotypes) while NPC or IFC groups generally usually just have campus level reputations, types (or stereotypes).
So it while some joking around or trash talking about D9 groups' images could be understood on a national level, with NPC or IFCs, you could only do it with people from your campus.
( I know that some people really do like to think that their NPC groups or IFC groups are stronger nationally than others, and they may be, but they don't have an image that is particularly distinct from other strong or elite groups. How is Kappa's image different than Theta's, for example, on a national level? Or Chi Omega's different than Pi Beta Phi's? But I think the average NPHC member could explain how AKA's image is different than DST or Alpha Phi Alpha image is different than Omega Psi Phi.)
ETA: and I think this ties in with Breathesgelatin's point too. There's not a "white" equivalent, exactly, to having membership in one NPHC.
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07-16-2008, 09:37 PM
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NPC or IFC groups generally usually just have campus level reputations, types (or stereotypes).
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I, and many NPCers and IFCers, think that you all also have national reputations and stereotypes.
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07-16-2008, 10:25 PM
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I, and many NPCers and IFCers, think that you all also have national reputations and stereotypes. 
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Do tell? I'm unaware of them. How are Thetas different than Kappas?
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07-16-2008, 10:33 PM
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Do tell? I'm unaware of them. How are Thetas different than Kappas?
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They aren't different?  That sucks for them.
To get into specifics is a waste of time. Suffice it to say that all of our organizations have things that they are best known for, including stereotypes of members. The stereotypes are intended to be true in many instances but not in every instance. Just like the "reputations" and stereotypes of NPHC orgs that have nothing to do with our history and programs.
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07-16-2008, 10:40 PM
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They aren't different?  That sucks for them.
To get into specifics is a waste of time. Suffice it to say that all of our organizations have things that they are best known for, including stereotypes of members. The stereotypes are intended to be true in many instances but not in every instance. Just like the "reputations" and stereotypes of NPHC orgs that have nothing to do with our history and programs.
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And I think the number of organization in the NPC is too big and so rarely present on any one campus that national reputations based on anything other than Saturday Night Live skits are pretty hard to come by.
Rather than worrying about listing them all, how about you describe any national NPC reps?
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07-16-2008, 10:53 PM
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Rather than worrying about listing them all, how about you describe any national NPC reps?
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NPHC, NPC, and IFCers say it "depends on campus" or "depends on the region" for our organizations' stereotypes and it does to a great extent. But the truth of the matter is that if people are more familiar with the "pretty girl" Tri-Delt chapters and hear their friends talk about the "pretty girl" Tri-Delt chapters at their schools, those who don't fit that stereotype will be considered the exception that defy the rule but not that overturn the rule.
Were you thinking of something different when you talk about "national stereotypes?" It doesn't require a consensus but it does require that a lot of people are aware of them. Many people are aware of the stereotypes of certain NPC and IFC orgs across campuses, which makes it "national," as far as I'm concerned.
ETA: http://www.collegeotr.com/university...ogy_kappa_1860
The last paragraph. It's not the most detailed explanation but this author was hinting at something. Whoever this author is, he/she can't be the only one who sees that it's more than just campus rivalries or stereotypes in some instances.
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07-16-2008, 10:59 PM
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NPHC, NPC, and IFCers say it "depends on campus" or "depends on the region" for our organizations' stereotypes and it does to a great extent. But the truth of the matter is that if people are more familiar with the "pretty girl" Tri-Delt chapters and hear their friends talk about the "pretty girl" Tri-Delt chapters at their schools, those who don't fit that stereotype will be considered the exception that defy the rule but not that overturn the rule.
Were you thinking of something different when you talk about "national stereotypes?" It doesn't require a consensus but it does require that a lot of people are aware of them. Many people are aware of the stereotypes of certain NPC and IFC orgs across campuses, which makes it "national," as far as I'm concerned.
ETA: http://www.collegeotr.com/university...ogy_kappa_1860
The last paragraph. It's not the most detailed explanation but this author was hinting at something. Whoever this author is, he/she can't be the only one who sees that it's more than just campus rivalries or stereotypes in some instances.
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So, you are offering Kappas are rich, brunette girls who lately are tending to be Jewish who have rivalries with Tri Delt for the hot girls? Okay then.
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