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[sherryanne]

So let me get this straight: you'll always be invited back to a sorority if 1.) they don't cut you, and 2.) you put them on your list, no matter how low they are ranked on it.

On a separate note:

You rank ABC DEF and GHI as your number one and rank JKL as your number two.

I thought you're supposed to rank them as 1.) ABC 2.) DEF and 3.) GHI in order of who you liked, not all three as #1...?

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by sherryanne

So let me get this straight: you'll always be invited back to a sorority if 1.) they don't cut you, and 2.) you put them on your list, no matter how low they are ranked on it.

On a separate note:I thought you're supposed to rank them as 1.) ABC 2.) DEF and 3.) GHI in order of who you liked, not all three as #1...?

There's some confusion here. Let's clarify and say that this one of two recruitment systems. In the first, you would not rank chapters at all but see each day before recruitment parties which chapters invited you back. On a campus with 14 sororities, you could be invited back to 14 parties, and then you'd choose whichever ones you wanted to attend, either accepting, regretting with interest, or just plain regretting. This is not the system we're discussing.

In the second system, PNMs rank chapters immediately after events based on their experiences at the recruitment parties. They do (as I understand it, we used the other system when I went through recruitment and switched to this one when I was a junior or senior) rank their first choice groups all #1. Then she ranks the other groups in order of preference.

So take for an example a PNM that is at a school with 14 sororities and the second round of parties she can go to a maximum of 10 parties. She will rank her ten top groups as all #1.

To answer your first question, in this system you can't avoid being invited back somewhere, as long as you rank the group on your list. But you might never know. So let's say from our first example, the PNM gets invited back to all 10 of her top choices. The sororities she ranked lower may have invited her back, or they may have cut her, but she'll never know that because she got her top choices and they won't appear on her list. Now, if the PNM only got her top 9 choices, but the group she ranked #2 didn't cut her, then that group appears on her card. Let's suppose, though, also, that the group she ranked #3 also didn't cut her. Well, that group won't appear on her party list because her #2 group invited her back, and the computer will schedule the groups in order of preference.

The advantage of this system is that it doesn't put the PNMs in the awkward position of declining invitations from sororities.

Hope that helps.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by sherryanne

I thought you're supposed to rank them as 1.) ABC 2.) DEF and 3.) GHI in order of who you liked, not all three as #1...?

For most formal recruitment systems, you only rank/order each chapter attended after the final ("Preference") round of parties.

Prior to pref round, you place the maximum number of chapters that can be attended the following day as #1 (thus, they all "tie" as houses you most want to return to) and the remaining chapters are then ranked in the order that you like them.

This is because a very, very, small number of PNMs do not receive any cuts at all during recruitment. Most PMNs return to houses that they may not have listed as #1 in earlier rounds due to cuts. This is not a bad thing... it gives an opportunity to give that chapter a second look and can keep your schedule full.

And, and has been said before, the chapter will not know where you placed them.... just as you will never know where you name is on their lists.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by sherryanne

So let me get this straight: you'll always be invited back to a sorority if 1.) they don't cut you, and 2.) you put them on your list, no matter how low they are ranked on it.

On a separate note:I thought you're supposed to rank them as 1.) ABC 2.) DEF and 3.) GHI in order of who you liked, not all three as #1...?

The reason you rank all of your top choices #1 is because
1. You can only rank as many chapters #1 as there are parties to attend the next day. Example: On Pref night the next day, you can go to three parties. If you went to five parties the day before prefs, you rank the three you like best then the two others in order of how well you liked them. If all chapters invited you back, you only go to your top choices; the bottom two are cut from your list. (Some campuses, however, will allow chapters that you cut to invite you back the next day, and you may have to go back to maximize your options if you can't fill your party slots with your other invites.)
2. They don't need a tie-breaker between your top chapters since you will go to each of their parties if they ask you back. This also means that Panhellenic (PHC) won't have a room full of women agonizing on whether they want to rank ABC or DEF #1 when it doesn't matter anyway!
3. PHC needs a way to determine which chapters you would want to attend if you don't get all of your top choices. They substitute your lower choices in order of how they appear on your list.
4. In the end, they are doing exactly what you would do if they gave you all of the invites and asked you to decide which ones you wanted to attend. This way, however, PHC can determine who is going to each party the next day and let the chapters know who to expect in advance.