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07-10-2008, 10:40 AM
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My opinion of Jackson hasn't changed because of this. His good deeds (that the general public isn't aware of) aren't minimized because of this.
This is about the election, as far as I'm concerned. Jackson will keep doing the instrumental behind the scenes stuff that he's been doing.
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07-10-2008, 11:28 AM
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My opinion of Jackson hasn't changed because of this. His good deeds (that the general public isn't aware of) aren't minimized because of this.
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In my opinion, his outrage over Obama is over his bottom line. If he can't play the race card because a black man is president...he won't have much money left because that's pretty much all the substance he has. Outrage over whitey and so on.
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07-10-2008, 11:32 AM
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In my opinion, his outrage over Obama is over his bottom line. If he can't play the race card because a black man is president...he won't have much money left because that's pretty much all the substance he has. Outrage over whitey and so on.
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My opinion of Jackson hasn't changed because of this. His good deeds (that the general public isn't aware of) aren't minimized because of this.
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But I and many others are aware of what he really does. So run along.
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07-10-2008, 01:04 PM
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Ah once again Jessie places foot in mouth!
He feels applogetic because he did not know the mike was live not for what he said! 
He may have done some good, but he has sure done a lot of harm!
Why does everyone think he can walk on water? 
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07-10-2008, 01:17 PM
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Ah once again Jessie places foot in mouth!
He feels applogetic because he did not know the mike was live not for what he said!
He may have done some good, but he has sure done a lot of harm!
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who exactly is 'everyone'?
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07-10-2008, 01:46 PM
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who exactly is 'everyone'?
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Who knows who 'everyone' refers to.
No one is above criticism and being criticized doesn't mean that your career (both in and out of the public eye) is over. For instance, the death of Strom Thurman was mourned by many despite various criticisms and allegations throughout the years.
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07-10-2008, 01:27 PM
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But I and many others are aware of what he really does. So run along.
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So how does this mode of argument work? You claim knowledge of which you provide no evidence, and then you dismiss others. It's interesting, but maybe not effective.
Jackson, accurately perceived or not, has a lot of his public image involved in advocating about racial issues. If Obama effectively sells a "post-racial" view to most of America, it does kind of mess with Jackson's gig.
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07-10-2008, 01:44 PM
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So how does this mode of argument work?
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Perfectly, thanks.
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07-10-2008, 01:57 PM
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Perfectly, thanks.
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I guess it depends on what your goals are.
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07-10-2008, 02:27 PM
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I guess it depends on what your goals are.
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Those who need educating can and will find other sources.
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07-10-2008, 01:56 PM
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But I and many others are aware of what he really does. So run along.
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...That had nothing to do with anything I said.
Furthermore, I know more than plenty of bad things he has done...using Chicago gangs to drive out competitors...lie about holding MLKjr when he was no where near him, lying about being a reverend when he didn't graduate from seminary and actually made really bad marks in the school, etc, etc.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance it happens very far away way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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07-10-2008, 02:25 PM
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...That had nothing to do with anything I said.
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Sure it does. You went on some "race card" and whitey rant and I'm letting you know that what Jackson does isn't reduced to race or to whitey.
To dislike someone for their public antics is your business. But you can't reduce their contribution to these public antics just because you (and the general public that waits for the mainstream media to tell them everything) haven't chosen to be informed.
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07-10-2008, 05:27 PM
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Sure it does. You went on some "race card" and whitey rant and I'm letting you know that what Jackson does isn't reduced to race or to whitey.
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The whitey rant? Really? Amazing...
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07-10-2008, 05:42 PM
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The whitey rant? Really? Amazing...
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hmmm....
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
....Outrage over whitey and so on.
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Were you assuming another meaning to whitey rant? Perhaps you should've kept my comment within the "race card" and whitey rant context.
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07-10-2008, 06:15 PM
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Sure it does. You went on some "race card" and whitey rant and I'm letting you know that what Jackson does isn't reduced to race or to whitey.
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I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that your use of the phrase “whitey rant” was just a repeat of what Elephant Walk had said but your second use of the term whitey was used with racial connotations.
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